What is the difference? Looking at a crx with a b18c1 interega gsr engine. Any of these enginges more dependable over the other? Assuming the swap is done correctly on both.

 

Well the C5 has more power and potential, but costs more... GSR is a good engine on those with a bigger budget then a B16 but cant afford a C5.

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does no one read the TOS anymore? SEARCH

 

I could not find a comparsion between the two.

 

180 vs 200 hp. on an aproximation. if you plan on modding the internals of either the B18C is the choice for you. If you plan to just use boltons & have the money then the B18C5 is for you.

 

hmmm....if you're on a budget, go with the GSR motor...if $$$ is just burning a hole in your pocket, get the C5. if either motor is gonna end up in a CRX, it won't make that much difference, you'll still be h3lla phast!!!

 

stock for stock with a cable b16 tranny most of the time the gsr will be quicker. I dont know exactly why. but maybe the two stage intake manifold helps a bit in a light car.? and maybe the gsr motor was not abused , since most type r owners had the car for a reason?

 

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It amazes me that people still believe stuff like this. Take a look at prices for either motor and you will find that the difference is actually quite small. And no, you cannot build a GSR to be the same (or better than) a B18C5 for less money. Unless you have a SERIOUS hookup. The bottom line: save up a few extra bucks and buy a B18C5. Unless, of course, you can get a GSR motor really cheap. Not that GSR motors are bad and CAN'T be as good as ITR motors. It is just not cost effective to start with a GSR motor if you have to pay retail for one. They are just not cheaper enough than ITR motors to be as good of a bang for the buck.

 

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Again, not true. GSR motors in CRXs typically run low to mid 14's with trap speeds in the mid to high 90's. ITR motors run 13's to low 14's with trap speeds above 100MPH. As for abuse, it has been my finding that GSR motors tend to be MORE abused. Back when I was considering purchasing one, I could not find one with good compression. Remember that GSRs are typically owned by kids who don't care for their engines well (ie frequent oil changes with GOOD synthetic oil) whereas ITR owners tend to be more mature and resposible about upkeep.

 

hmm i have a gsr motor.... would i rather have a type r motor? answer is no.. i'll tell you why.. i'm building my gsr motor.. yeah a mild port job from honda is fine for a driving around the town.. for the money i would a gsr will do fine .. if you got lots of money you want to spend buy a R motor... \

final thought .. if you're just dreaming about putting one of these motors in.. stop wasting our time and do a search ....
and that guy that posted about times with each motor... i hit 13.9 in a 88 hf with intake open stock header... on gsr rims with avs intermidiates.... and if it helped i'm obd 1..

 

the question was if either motor was more dependable than the other? not whether or not one was quicker than the other. Make sure the motor is legit since it is a udsm motor.

 

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It amazes me that people still believe stuff like this. Take a look at prices for either motor and you will find that the difference is actually quite small. And no, you cannot build a GSR to be the same (or better than) a B18C5 for less money. Unless you have a SERIOUS hookup. The bottom line: save up a few extra bucks and buy a B18C5. Unless, of course, you can get a GSR motor really cheap. Not that GSR motors are bad and CAN'T be as good as ITR motors. It is just not cost effective to start with a GSR motor if you have to pay retail for one. They are just not cheaper enough than ITR motors to be as good of a bang for the buck.</TD></TR></TABLE>

all right...let's just say i have mad cRaCk H3ad h00k ups... like Jerry the race car driver...
fully built GSR motor in a 89-90 hatch...well...just pm me...

 

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Reliable? That's up to you & how the previous owner took care of it. If you are planning on modding the hell out of it will not be as reliable as stock, but it either can be VERY reliable.

 

my boy ran 13.4 with b18c1 in 90 rex si. bolt-ons!!! thats pretty crazy!

 

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all right...let's just say i have mad cRaCk H3ad h00k ups... like Jerry the race car driver...
fully built GSR motor in a 89-90 hatch...well...just pm me... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Here is the way I look at it. If you have hookups, it is MUCH more likely that you can get a GSR motor for substantially less than retail. If you can get a GSR motor in good shape (or a whole car) for a song, go this way. Buy if you have to pay retail, the cost savings are almost nil if you go GSR rather than ITR. In fact, you will end up paying more if you go GSR and then build it to ITR specs.

 

well the way that I see it is that no one just swaps a motor and leaves it stock anymore... So if you are planning od doing any modifications to the motor itself(ie. pistons, rods, valves etc.) the GSR is by far the way to go... And if you are planning on turboing it GSR gets two more points for having the best Turbo ready cams period... Just my opnion...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well the way that I see it is that no one just swaps a motor and leaves it stock anymore... So if you are planning od doing any modifications to the motor itself(ie. pistons, rods, valves etc.) the GSR is by far the way to go... And if you are planning on turboing it GSR gets two more points for having the best Turbo ready cams period... Just my opnion...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Of course, the extent and time frame of your mods is important as well. For extreme internal mods which are to be performed pretty much ASAP, I agree that the GSR motor is the better way to go. Why spend an extra $500-$700 for the ITR motor if you are going to improve your motor above and beyond an ITR? On the other hand, if you are going to have to wait for quite some time before doing internal mods, you might just want to look into the ITR. After all, you have 200HP to play with for the next year or two before you ultimately build your motor. And simply having 200HP in an ED and being able to at least keep up with late-model F-bodies is really not that shabby of a thing. Also, the ITR motor is a better choice if (1) you are not going to do internal mods (ALOT of people would indeed call it a day if they had around 200HP in an ED), (2) the internal mods you plan are not extreme (ie simply a better set of cams, in which case, you still have the mildly ported head, lightened flywheel, and other ITR improvements to complement the cams), or (3) you just plan to build your GSR motor to equal an ITR. As I said before, the third scenario is NOT going to happen for less than the cost of an ITR motor, given the already high cost of GSR motors. And as I said before, these criteria would be ALOT different if only GSR motors could be MUCH cheaper than they currently are.

 

like everyone else has already said....dollar for dollar it would be cheaper to buy a c5, then to build a c1 to c5 specs....but unless you just wanna leave a good factory built n/a car, then i'd get the c1....the bottle, internals, or boost...both are awesome motors, but if you think you might turbo it later on just get the c1.

 

sorry to bring this back from the dead but didnt wanna repost.. my b16 hatch just got sideswiped and im gettin some money for that and plus i already had some saved up. im gettin another ef and im seriously stuck between these two motors. i wanted to try and get some more opinions from people that know or have one of these in there rides. can both be built with equal "ease" or is it harder to build up an r motor? im not worried about costs of the swaps at the moment so just lookin for some more experiences and opinions. thanks in advance guys.

 

id go with the b18c