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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 12:03 PM
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Hi..I am currently changing my oil right now...its about 3000 miles right now..and i took off my oil filter to change it...i looked inside my oil filter..and its completely dry..bone dry......whats going on?

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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 12:08 PM
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How much oil came out of your car? Check the oil filter mount on the block, maybe it's clogged something major?
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 12:29 PM
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i felt around the oil filter mount..didnt' noticed anythign different..i tried sticking my finger down the hollow tube to see if i could feel anything...nothing...at all..the hollow tube..was barely even wet with oil....what is going on here?

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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 12:33 PM
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How long ago did you run the car before you changed the oil. Maybe all the oil just settled down in the oil pan. But since the oil filter is mounted sideways i would expect there to be atleast alittle oil in the filter. Thats kinda weird.
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 12:37 PM
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I only left my car off for about 2-3 hours....

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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 01:02 PM
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please anyone help me..Tom if your out there..please help me...

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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 01:28 PM
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was the oil filter a fram?
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 01:37 PM
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OEM honda...
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 01:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris y0! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

you know you should change your oil at full operating temperature right </TD></TR></TABLE>

you know it really doesnt matter right?
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 01:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sohc Driver &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi..I am currently changing my oil right now...its about 3000 miles right now..and i took off my oil filter to change it...i looked inside my oil filter..and its completely dry..bone dry......whats going on?

Khoi

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best thing i can tell you right now is take it to honda to get it check, if it has warrenty. this is a major problem. your oil pump might be busted or the relief valve might be stuck open, i dont know. all i know, your car might be leading to destruction.
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 02:01 PM
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Well, if there is no oil pressure, the oil light will most likely come on. Maybe it drained a bit when you took it out. I would have someone look at it though and check the oil pressure.
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 02:08 PM
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Praise the lord!! Praise everybody for their help...I think..it was all just in my head...I went ahead and finished up my oilchange...and added my oil...afterwards.....i pulled all of my plug wires out..and cranked my motor for 5 seconds...and then i went to go loosen the filter again..to verify if there was any oil making it to the filter..voala!!! OIL leaked out after i loosened the filter...man..how happy am I!!!! I felt like when the oil leaked out from the filter that gold was falling from the heavens...hehe :-) Thanks for all the help..my conclusion is that...there was no problem...the oil filter was probably dry from leaving my car off for 2-3 hours....Originally..i thought no oil was making it to the filter...but after finishing up the job..i pull all the plugs and cranked the motor..and then loosened the filter to check one more time if oil was making it to the filter...indeed it did! Thanks again everyone..I am one happy honda Tech'er!!!

Khoi

P.S..thanks to JJ and Paul!!!
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 02:19 PM
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dood you didnt win a golden globe , calm down
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 02:42 PM
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im damn happy...hehe...i was afraid it was something serious...i can't imagine why the oil filter could be that dry with just a 2-3 hour rest..

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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 02:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TURSpoonEK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dood you didnt win a golden globe , calm down</TD></TR></TABLE>


dont tell him how to feel.
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 02:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JUN EK9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


dont tell him how to feel.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks man..its ok..maybe to him it seems like im over exaggerating..but i really am that happy...i was scared that for the whole 3000 miles of driving that no oil was making it to the filter....I am soo relieved! Still can't figure out why the oil filter can drain empty in 2-3 hours..in all of my oil changes ever done..never has this ever happened...While trying to keep this post alive and keeping it tech related...any ideas?? This may help someone in the future...

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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 02:50 PM
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dont tell him how to feel.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't tell him what to do...
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 05:40 PM
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sohcdriver,

the anti-drainback valve should keep oil in your oil filter all the time. even if you removed the oil filter and oil comes out, there should still be oil inside the filter if your antidrainback valve was working properly. you can even leave your oil filter upside down draining for a month and oil should still be inside the filter. the purpose of this valve is to keep you car from having dry start-ups. if oil isnt retained in the filter after you shut off the car, then the oil pump has to refill the oil filter with oil then circulate throughout the motor instead of oil remaining in the filter and circulate as soon as you start up your car. using an oil filter with a faultly antidrainback valve will cause more wear on your motor during start ups. also your oem honda filter could be a fram if it was made in canada and some frams oil filters have faulty antidrainback valves. the best antidrainback valves are made of silicon.
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 05:47 PM
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damn..i thought the best filter to use was the OEM honda one...What does the antidrainback valve look like anyways?

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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 05:52 PM
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 06:27 PM
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Okay folks heads up!

When you get an OEM honda filter, it is wrapped in plastic right, when you open it, do NOT open it by poking your finger in the little hole. Often times, a little piece of plasitc will flow down in there and you will get similar results to this guy.

Honde released a service bulletin about this once, just be careful.
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 06:57 PM
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Oops.

Anyway, if you do buy a non-OEM filter, just read the box and make sure it has an anti-drainback valve, most of the better ones do. I've used OEM, Fram ToughGuard (or whatever the hell) and some sort of Purolator Pure One and they had anti-drainback valves...
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 08:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Plan B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Okay folks heads up!

When you get an OEM honda filter, it is wrapped in plastic right, when you open it, do NOT open it by poking your finger in the little hole. Often times, a little piece of plasitc will flow down in there and you will get similar results to this guy.

Honde released a service bulletin about this once, just be careful.</TD></TR></TABLE>

do you know where i can find out more information on this?

Khoi

P.S. Do you think i incurred any damages to my engine?
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 08:48 PM
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reguardless if the oil filter has a drain back valve or whatever it is called,
the inside of a filter should not be DRY, never.

if you have the old filter cut a hole in the side and see if theres any oil in there.
if you want an easier approach, shake it and listen for sloshing of fluids.
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 08:49 PM
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well...when i did shake it..i did hear slushing noise.......if it were a brand new filter..i should have heard nothing at all right?

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