haha ok i searched but didnt get some of the questions i was looking for answered.

b16a with gsr head in a crx

any modifaction to the wiring harrenst?
better to use my intake mani or the gsr ?
could i use a thiner head gasket to bump the C/R up anymore ?
any little things i could add to raise hp
and anything else i might have left out

i thought of useing the GSR block and b16 head combo thats going a different route .. this seems to be easier im my situation

 

you'd be better off doing gs-r block w/b16 head, because gs-r block is stronger and b16 head is stronger. and how much you want for those wheels? any curb marks? scratches? how good are tires?

 

anyone else for the afternoon crew

 

man definitly go w/ the GSR block and B16 head, you'll appreciate the tourque above all else, I don't understand why you would want the GSR head on the B16 anyways, IMO the B16 flows better, thats why both the B18c5 and B16b heads are based off the b16 head, the head is really the best part of the B16 motor

 

go with the gs-r head on a B16. I built one and it fawkin ripps. Higher compression ratio and it flows just as good as a B16 head if not better. **** all the myths that a B16 head is stronger. lol. Funniest line I have heard.

Since the gs-r head is garbage, I'll start buying them off of people for $20.

Motor I built was a first gen B16A block, 95 GS-R head, skunk manifold and a Mugen chipped p28 in a 00 EK. Everything of course converted to OBD1 spec.

Oh and btw, I drive a B18C1 hatch...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B.CRUZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">go with the gs-r head on a B16. I built one and it fawkin ripps. Higher compression ratio and it flows just as good as a B16 head if not better. **** all the myths that a B16 head is stronger. lol. Funniest line I have heard.

Since the gs-r head is garbage, I'll start buying them off of people for $20.

Motor I built was a first gen B16A block, 95 GS-R head, skunk manifold and a Mugen chipped p28 in a 00 EK. Everything of course converted to OBD1 spec.

Oh and btw, I drive a B18C1 hatch... </TD></TR></TABLE>

I can't believe you're not gonna say how much better the GSR motor is then the GSR head on the B16, I would think you'd be a lot happier w/ the whole b18c1

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B.CRUZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">go with the gs-r head on a B16. I built one and it fawkin ripps. Higher compression ratio and it flows just as good as a B16 head if not better. **** all the myths that a B16 head is stronger. lol. Funniest line I have heard.

Since the gs-r head is garbage, I'll start buying them off of people for $20.

Motor I built was a first gen B16A block, 95 GS-R head, skunk manifold and a Mugen chipped p28 in a 00 EK. Everything of course converted to OBD1 spec.

Oh and btw, I drive a B18C1 hatch... </TD></TR></TABLE>

do you have dyno numbers or 1/4 mile times? very curious about this setup...

 

I sold that motor to a buddy of mines and the motor got stolen from his car not long after so he never got a chance to time it or dyno it. a HT member has the same set up in his 5th gen hatch and it runs about mid-high 13's on slicks.

 

I sold that motor to a buddy of mines and the motor got stolen from his car not long after so he never got a chance to time it or dyno it. a HT member has the same set up in his 5th gen hatch and it runs about mid-high 13's.

edit:

93 H/B, GSR topend, B16 bottomend. just the usual bolt ons. I/H/E, chipped P28, 2000 Si trans.
Hope this helps.
Colin

13.53 @ 98.31 MPH 1.6 L N/A


his sn is canadian hybrid here on ht.

 

OK OK OK WHO THE F*** would build a B16A Block WITH a GR head ARE THEY dumb Or stupid LOL.


92-Prelude Daily Driven
90 EF9 Si B16a

 

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Maybe someone who had a spare B16 block and a spare GSR head

Don't be so quick to criticize. I knew a guy who ran a 13.6 with that "crappy" setup... NA with bolt ons, and some mild cams and stuff.

 

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92-Prelude Daily Driven
90 EF9 Si B16a</TD></TR></TABLE>yeah a dumb or stupid person that would smoke your 'EF9 Si B16a'

 

BTW for those of you who don't know, the P72 head flows more than a stock PR3 head, unported of course. Please don't bash if you don't know what you are talking about. I don't have the exact numbers with me, but it is a noticeable difference. ALso the gsr head will add compression by .2.

If you don't know, don't post.

 

GSR head will work fine. Get a skunk 2 mani. The one off of your b16 will not not work.
I had a DPR ported gsr head on a stock C5 block and made 200+whp.

I like the gsr heads, but I think that you will notice a larger increase if you got a stock gsr or itr block, and kept your b16 head, as opposed to just swapping a stock GSR head with your b16 head.

Good Luck.

 

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If you don't know, don't post.</TD></TR></TABLE>exactly..

 

man definitly go w/ the GSR block and B16 head, you'll appreciate the tourque above all else, I don't understand why you would want the GSR head on the B16 anyways, IMO the B16 flows better, thats why both the B18c5 and B16b heads are based off the b16 head, the head is really the best part of the B16 motor
_______...this guy said it allllllll and you ..you dont know **** about me so F*** you i bet your not that fast either you ***.......ANY TIME Northern CAL BRING IT

 

They're like Lego's. Build with what you got, and you'll have fun doing either!

If you have a B16a shortblock, and a GSR head laying around, JUST the extra compression will make 5ish HP more than a pure B16a with same mods and style of intake manifold.

My preference for the money would be a straight b18c1 with a Skunk2 manifold run off the b16a ECU, but that's just me.

Naturally Aspirated, the rule of thumb is that more displacement RULES over a small increase in compression ratio!

 

http://www.importreview.com/re....html

It's true. If you don't know please don't post. On flow bench the gsr head will outflow the b16 head anyday. Just look at the comparison. Name calling won't change the matter.

 

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Hey I'm from Northen Cali too. SF area. We should meet up sometime you ithug.

edit: you won't last long in HT by being a iTHUG.

 

actually ive been doing research on both swaps(GSRtopB16bottm) and (B16headGSRbottom) the first one will give you higher Compression the second ones kinda iffy because it will actually give you a lower c/r, unless you use either aftermarket pistons or the b16 pistons but IMO i would think that setup wouldnt last reason being you start mixmatching parts like that and try to cut corners and what not( were all guilty ) you get somthing that wont last

the reason ive decied that the gsr head would be better in my situation is 1: lack of money and 2: less down time since this is my only car but i think after all my crying and wineing i think ill just leave it alone and stick with what i have its gotten me through almost 2 yrs of no major problems**knock on wood** no sence in changing somthing if its not broken

thanks for all in the input though i might help someone else in later down the road

 

for all of you that motor that was mentioned above, canadianhybrid ran a best 13.53@98 mph, tahts with open header, on a test and tune night.

shortly after that run i bought the car, my best is a 13.7@97mph, thats with full exhaust.

during the winter i took it apart, and all the was done to the inside was a blockguard, and ctr intake cam

im sticking to this combo because

1. i have it
2. i dotn wanna spend anymore money
3. its original
4. and it works, and its proven

and didnt jered silvers use this setup? and he was in the 10's

i jsut got the car back on the road, and all ive done was freshen up the motor, and see what it can really do, since the old block had nitrous on it

this motor loves to rev, and it makes insane amounts of power and torque.

for pics: http://www.onestophobbies.com/spork

canadianhybrid bought this car from someone in cali, if you know this person or you read this post, id like to talk to you

email me at trippin_2k@hotmail.com

 

holy **** dood. your car is clowning HARD!!!! that is the dopest 5th gen I have seen. That is what I envisioned my car to be. I wish I could afford a paint job. DAMN!!! major props guy