Oem vs Bronze Valve Guides

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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 04:10 PM
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Default Oem vs Bronze Valve Guides

I'm freshening up a b16 head for boost 14-20psi with stock valves. It's mainly a daily driver so longevity is a factor.

Pros and cons of the two would be nice.
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 04:22 PM
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Spend the money on valves before you worry about the guides.
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 07:12 PM
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im just replacing the guides and seals.
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 08:08 PM
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No polls in FI. Changed it to a normal thread
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 08:34 PM
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Default Re: Oem vs Bronze Valve Guides (earl)

with the nitride coating on ferrea valves theres really no need to go bronze.

replacing guides is a BITCH
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 08:37 PM
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Default Re: Oem vs Bronze Valve Guides (94goldjungsr)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94goldjungsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with the nitride coating on ferrea valves theres really no need to go bronze.

replacing guides is a BITCH</TD></TR></TABLE>

Unless they are worn. Worn guides makes for shitty seating of the valves and beats the fawk out of the seats and valves themselves.

Replacing guides is a complete PITA. I tried it and gave up. Take it to the headshop cause YOU CAN DESTROY YOUR HEAD IF NOT DONE PROPERLY!!!!!
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 08:59 PM
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I agree with 93lsivic. Change them only if you need to! Its a major bitch to take them out because you have to heat the head, then hammer them out. Then have the replacemnet guides frozen to install on the warm head. Is a PITA!!!

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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 09:05 PM
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besides bronze valve guides dont last nearly as long as oem ones do... you will be replacing them again before you know it...
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 10:04 PM
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yea I do need to replace the guides, I took off the retainers and my valves were doing the "wobble wobble". I was planning on getting the oem ones anyways but i'm posting here to see what you guys think of the two. Yes, replacing guides should be done by a machine shop.
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 02:46 AM
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freak, my local machine shop talks about replacing guides like it's easy!
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 04:08 PM
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If anyone is interested I have a complete set (8) of OEM exhaust guides still brand new and in the honda packaging. They are LS i believe though....p/n is 12204-PR4-A01. If anyone is interested let me know, I'll get rid of them for less then what you can buy em for from the dealership.


Modified by 93LSivic at 9:36 PM 7/6/2003
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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 10:52 PM
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When I have my head built AKA worked and ported, I'm having guides, seals, valves, springs and retainers replaced just as a little extra safty measure. The hed IS off a 1989 Civic, afterall. This isn't some 2001 GSR head.

Guides and seals I bought from Acura the other day. Thanks for the hook up, Acura of Memphis!

Retainers, Valves, and Springs, I'm going to buy as a package, just becasue one manufacturer generall tunes all their parts to work best together.
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