I know this guy and his setup is JDM ITR motor, AEM CAI, JDM 4-2-1 with 2.5 collector, custom made exhaust with no cat, exedy clutch, V-AFC, Skunk2 stage 2 cams, retainers, valve springs. His car put 197.3 to the wheels.I havent seen the dyno plot but is this possible with just those mods alone?There is no PnP or aftermarket pistons only what i listed.

 

so basically an ITR with i/h/e and some S2S2 cams... he must have it madd tuned... to me that seems a bit high.

 

That seems high to you guys? Huh. I see ITR's get deep in the 180's with just a Hytech or SMSP headerback. I've seen stock interal ITR's break 190 and Skunk2 stage 1 as well as TODA A's break 200whp. I'd satisfied with those numbers for that set-up, but it needs more compression to get the full potential from those cams.

 

Yea it dide seem a little high but i wasnt sure or not thats why i posted it.It makes me wonder if my setup will exceed his since i have a better header,Ported head and higher compression.

 

hmmm...... i wonder what i am making!! i need to go to the dyno!!!

 

Every motor, tuner, dyno is different, so there's no set number for any motor. I've seen more than one dyno plot, with bolt on's and a set of cams making around 200, sometimes more. For example, friends Jspec ITR w/bolt ons, test pipe, Toda B's makes 206 peak hp, w/137tq, and has a very torquey curve, a blast to drive, even daily. The passing power on the freeway is incredible.

 

well if you ran that setup B18C5 I/H/E VAFC, Skunk2 Stage 2 cams and adjustable cam gears would you need valve springs and retainers or would the factory ITR ones do just fine?

 

I would upgrade the valvesprings/retainers, those cams are pretty big, and OEM's not going to hold up.

 

im a few ponies shy of that w/ stock cams and a SMS header. UNTUNED with stock intake and just a sms header i dynoed at 187hp/125 tq..since then i've added cam gears and have been tuned, and gained a few more, its in the 190's but we are gonna try to break 200 w stock motor.

With cams i plan to be well over 200whp. Its possible, with a better header he can cash in on some more power. I honestly would be mad if i ended up with only 197 on stage 2 cams.

 

I seen the same set up pull 197 and 130-something torque if thats any help, 13.7 in a 00 si.

 

its possible.

 

check this type r out http://www.b20vtec.com go 2 steves type r best et. was 13.4 in a heavy *** car

 

when you say tune... are you talking about timing a/f.....etc.. if so what do you set these at..??

 

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Every motor is different, even with identical upgrades

 

All dyno's have diffnumbers
I know of 4 dynojets with in 20 miles from me that read
13hp difference A dyno is a good tool for baseline testing
I did a head for a customer his car dynoed 160WHP
The car ran 12.50 on street tires
well anyways I hope u see my point
,BRAD

 

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I know of 4 dynojets with in 20 miles from me that read
13hp difference A dyno is a good tool for baseline testing
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Now the question is if 4 of your local dynos read different HP on the same car,which dyno is giving out the right #'s?

 

Why the highest of course...

 

erics racing helped me with my setup he said i should be around 215-230 whp.heres my setup

b18c1
jdm itr pistons/gsr rods
lightened flywheel
underdrive pulley
comp. ported & polished head
skunk 2 valves,springs,retainers,stage 2 cams
fidenza cam gears
aem CAI
erics 68-70mm throttle body
skunk 2 intake manifold
erics fuel presure reg.
270 injectors
tuned p28 ecu
no a/c or ps
type r tranny

i trusted eric cuz he knows his stuff.

 

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ahah the infamous pooped her shorts jdm itr picture, classic

 

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ahah the infamous pooped her shorts jdm itr picture, classic

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DAMN, thats sum nasty ****!

 

I'd hit it twice....

 

how much hp can i get with this setup????

99 red si with 94 jdm b18c1 block???

skunk2 stage2 cams with arias pistons
stock gsr rods
jg throttle body
exedy racing clutch & lightened flywheel
jun titanium valves springs & retainers
spoon adj. cam gears
skunk2 manifold
carsound 2.5 high flow cat
dc 4-2-1 headers
v2 cold air
tanabe exhaust
hondata s200
ngk wire set
seibon cf hood
no back seat
light racing wheels 9.5 a piece 15's
cross drilled brembo brakes
moroso oil pan
2004 civic si seats
I still don't have the quaife lsd but thinking about getting it soon still running stock 99 si. The jdm b18c1 block is still sitting in the garage with all these parts thanks for your help....

this is not installed yet but wandering how much whp i can squeeze out of it....and what 1/4 can i expect with this setup?????

 

the crossdrilled brembos since they weigh less than stock add about 10horse in the highend cuz of drivetrain loss

 

2rbo


Re: Type R motor with Skunk Stage 2??? (skribblah) 11:27 PM 7/28/2004

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how much hp can i get with this setup????
99 red si with 94 jdm b18c1 block???

skunk2 stage2 cams with arias pistons
stock gsr rods
jg throttle body
exedy racing clutch & lightened flywheel
jun titanium valves springs & retainers
spoon adj. cam gears
skunk2 manifold
carsound 2.5 high flow cat
dc 4-2-1 headers
v2 cold air
tanabe exhaust
hondata s200
ngk wire set
seibon cf hood
no back seat
light racing wheels 9.5 a piece 15's
cross drilled brembo brakes
moroso oil pan
2004 civic si seats
I still don't have the quaife lsd but thinking about getting it soon still running stock 99 si. The jdm b18c1 block is still sitting in the garage with all these parts thanks for your help....

this is not installed yet but wandering how much whp i can squeeze out of it....and what 1/4 can i expect with this setup?????

yo dog thats a 10 sec car

 

Stock block/head USDM ITR (except for the Skunk2 Stage 2 cams and valve train) :