Ok, here's the deal. A few weeks back, some punkass thief broke into my car and stole my registration and hospital ID. I'm assuming he took them with the intention of somehow using them to get a key made from an Acura dealer or something. Whatever the case, he was picked up recently with the registration and ID in his glovebox, and is now sitting comfortably in a jail cell awaiting his trial. I've now been summoned to testify, which I will happily do, but I also know his name. I've debated putting it up here online because something seems a little wrong about it. The idea of potentially ruining someone's life is a little, eh, bothersome, but at the same time, HE broke into MY car, so it comes down to him taking responsibility for his actions. What are your opinions? Mods, I'd especially appreciate your ideas.

 

although I'd be really tempted to do so, I wouldn't. At least not till he's convicted.

yshi - who thinks all theives sux0rz

 

When he's proven guilty, post it. It's public records then. Until then, I don't think you should post it.

edit: god damned green dino types too fast

 

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exactly what i was gonna say

 

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LOL

 

Sounds like a plan. Expect a name sometime in early August.

 

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thanks to this thing called instant messenger, i've gone from 20wpm 4yrs ago to ~90wpm now

yshi - hu also credits IM fo mak'n him tajp all funnay

 

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I hope it is nobody we know...

 

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we can r00l out anybody that's been on HT today.

yshi - who r00lz himself out

 

I agree. wait till convicted.

 

Would a mod like the name, to see if it's an HT member?

 

Why wait until convicted, he had your ownership. You can tell us who was caught with your ownership. Whether he gets convicted or not is irrelevant. You mean you guys actually have faith in the justice system???

 

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by the way...no one would be ruining anyone's life....the theif made that choice when he decided to steal ...post that rats name and al the details on him when he is sentenced!!!

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If that is the ONLY evidence they've got, I'd wait til he was convicted. The evidence COULD BE circumstancial. He might be (although unlikely) an innocient bistandard who found those documents somewhere and was trying to return it...

 

all i need is his social security number...after that, he won't be able to buy a stick of gum without 3 forms of identification

 

who gives a **** if he's not proven guilty, he's obviously guilty of something, why else would he be in a ****** cell? i say post his name everywhere, **** THEIVES.

 

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Wow! Now that's faith in the justice system.

 

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Why? Because if he posts the guys name here when the guy has not been proven guilty, he can get his *** sued. That's what we call libel. Let's say he gets off on the charges, the guy can start a civil suit against him for defamation of character. Let's go even farther and say someone here knows of the person and does something to them because of this, when the person MAY be innocent (and legally is at this time). Do you not think there would be some form of lawsuit against him for that?

Use your heads people. Wait a few months until the guy is proven guilty.

Edit: and plus, why do you even care what his name is unless he's local and you want to avoid him, and even then, how will knowing his damned name help anyways? If you want to know the name so you can do something about it, then you're a bigger idiot than this thief.

 

What would posting his name do to him? I can't think of anything..

 

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Stating that he IS a thief as a fact is defamation of character. Something he can be sued for.

here's a question for you: How does NOT posting his name effect you?

 

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Why? Because if he posts the guys name here when the guy has not been proven guilty, he can get his *** sued. That's what we call libel. Let's say he gets off on the charges, the guy can start a civil suit against him for defamation of character. Let's go even farther and say someone here knows of the person and does something to them because of this, when the person MAY be innocent (and legally is at this time). Do you not think there would be some form of lawsuit against him for that?

Use your heads people. Wait a few months until the guy is proven guilty.

Edit: and plus, why do you even care what his name is unless he's local and you want to avoid him, and even then, how will knowing his damned name help anyways? If you want to know the name so you can do something about it, then you're a bigger idiot than this thief.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Umm, it is a matter of public records when someone gets arrested for something, which is how the media can report on something without getting sued. Reporting that someone got arrested for something is defintely not libel. Records are kept when you get arrested, even if you got acquitted.

The media always used the term "allegedly", and that is what you can say, that it is alleged that he was found with the ownership in his possesion.
Use your head for once!

 

I agree Canuck. It's the fact that he WILL be labeled a thief as a FACT where the libel part comes in. That's what the whole "innocent until proven guilty" part is about.

I ask again, why does anyone give a rat's *** what the guy's name is?

I don't. I also don't care if he posts it. I just wouldn't, but that's me.

 

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Stating that he IS a thief as a fact is defamation of character. Something he can be sued for.

here's a question for you: How does NOT posting his name effect you?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't think you understand why I asked that. I just don't see that posting his name as being a very big threat..

An address with a phone number and a description...... then we're getting somewhere. That's all.

 

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Why? Because if he posts the guys name here when the guy has not been proven guilty, he can get his *** sued. That's what we call libel. Let's say he gets off on the charges, the guy can start a civil suit against him for defamation of character. Let's go even farther and say someone here knows of the person and does something to them because of this, when the person MAY be innocent (and legally is at this time). Do you not think there would be some form of lawsuit against him for that?

Use your heads people. Wait a few months until the guy is proven guilty.

Edit: and plus, why do you even care what his name is unless he's local and you want to avoid him, and even then, how will knowing his damned name help anyways? If you want to know the name so you can do something about it, then you're a bigger idiot than this thief.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You basically covered exactly why I'm hesitant. I don't know the entire situation of what he told the cops when he was picked up, so while HIGHLY unlikely, he could've found the stuff lying somewhere and wanted to return it. Here's a legal question, if he is convicted, is it still defamation of character if I put his name out here stating that he's a thief? I mean, I would think not, as he's been convicted of it, and it would be sort of a fact then, but I don't know anything about law.

 

FVCK TH33VZ DI3!!!

Im always down for giving th33vz what they deserve, but what would really be the point of posting this guys name and other info unless he was a member here? Assuming the evidence is overwhelming and somehow this jackass escapes penalty from our faithful justice system through a plea bargain or some other kind of bullshit, THEN I would say post that **** up even if he wasnt a member. Then people on the board could feel free to take things into their own hands and teach this guy a lesson since the justice system failed.

 

sscguy: if he's convicted after it's posted.. dunno. I'll let batouttahell answer, he is a civil lawyer IIRC...

As canuck pointed out, you can state his name and that he was arrested for something (assuming he's an adult) but I fear that it'll turn into "he's a thief" even before it's proven.

but whatever, me done with this thread