Reason I ask is, my air conditioner beats the **** out of my car it seems. I realize the ITR's power is all in the higher RPM band, but I can really tell when the compressor engages/disengages itself as my entire car stalls forward like I'm downshifting when I'm cruising in the low RPM ranges with the air conditioner on. How much HP does the A/C sap from the engine in the ITR? I figure my car is doing this because the engine produces so little power under 3k RPM that the AC kicking on and off is very noticable... I've just never driven a car that was this bad when the compressor turns on and off (Almost makes me wonder if there's something wrong with my engagement mechanism.)

 

doesn't the a/c automatically shut off at WOT???

 

A/C sucks at low RPM's as far as robbing power.

But Hybrid ctr is right......

 

rev-matchign is a bitch w/ the AC on.....the RPMS drop like an anvil once the clutch is disengaged

 

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I'm pretty sure it does, it's just a very very weird feeling when you're driving along at a constant speed/rpm and then the compressor kicks on and slows the car for for a half a second

 

My car feels indentical to what you are describing...only it's not an R

My H22 bogs horribly w/the AC, Perhaps it's the 8.5lb flywheel...You would think the H22 wouldn't be so bad, being bigger displacement and all.

I'm almost positive AC does not disengage at WOT in my car..I thought that was only in GM's...ala Camaro/Firebird??

 

A/C sucks anyways.

And I noticed the same feeling on the highway on monday, me and brewcityR were 'whoa-ing' about it. Big power-robber.

 

i love my a/c and it is kinda annoying the your car lags a lil when its on but who cares. when you're cool you're cool.

 

whats a/c? oh that thing used to keep your legs cool while wearing SKIRTS you pansies just playing. I did not know the AC shuts off at WOT

 

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Hahaha, yes, the cool air blowing up my skirt keeps my ***** dry on hot summer days

 

Anyone have confirmation of the A/C shuting off @ WOT? Is this controlled by the ECU? Is it the ITR ECU specific or all Honda ECUs in generall (aka will going OBDI ***** joo over)...if this is true itI may just put it back in, seeing as how I might be moving to FL. it would be nice..

 

A/C ownz!

I wouldn't care if it took 50 hp to run the damn thing, it's staying.

In fact, I've often wondered about getting something with a 454 just so I could strap two compressors on it. Ahhhh, air conditioning.

Living in Texas does strange things to a person.

 

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Glad to hear I'm not the only 1 that notices this.

 

On my EP3, the a/c kick (and overall power drain) isn't nearly as bad as it was on my ITR back when it had a/c. I guess Honda found a way to improve it. I wonder if it is any lighter though.

 

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wh0a!

 

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thumbup all you want, all i know is i drove a car with no A/C and power steering for one chicago summer and it was all i could take. i am NOT down with driving home in 100+ degree weather with a stripe of sweat on my shirt where my seatbelt was.

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I NEVER use A/C unless a passenger won't stop bitching. (i.e., girlfriend or double A)

 

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mid 90's, 70 degree dewpoint, and ozone alerts here in NY today, A/C what?

 

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Stop being a puss sucka

Try driving a old 90 civic hatch with vinyl seats without A/C. Then you tell me about some sweat. I just take off the shirt and so the ladies what the muscles look like...

Oh how I wish I still had that hatch And the only reason I waish I had A/C on the way and back from Gingerman was for my doggie...

 

My old CRX had the best A/C system... whereby 'best' I mean 'most ghetto.' If you wanted to run the AC, you went to Pep Boys, bought one of those little cans of refrigerant for $5, put it in, and you could have cold air for about 3 days

 

Wouldn't a set of AEM pulleys help a bit with the power loss?

 

damn, you guys are absolutley right about this... with the AC on, my car feels like a SOHC civic
oh well, whenever I need to get going, I just downshift AND push the AC button

 

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I'd say "yes".

I don't get so much loss at driving speed with an Unorthodox crank pulley. Of course, the A/C doesn't work at idle, either (but, neither does the alternator ).

And to all you he-men that don't need A/C: good for you! I live in the fricking desert, ok? I love it. Of course, if I'm stuck at a light or in traffic, I need to rev to 1500rpm or so to keep the compressor working...

 

I accidentally left my A/C on during a dyno run and back to back with the previous run I showed a 5-6 whp loss.