ok one of the number one mod's for stang's is to change the rear end gear's. Stang come stock with a 3.02 gear. Most guy's that have GT put in 3.73 Cobra's owner's go up to 4.10. COBRA'S get 4.10 because they can rev higher then a GT can. what gear's do is let you rev up faster. That why you can get into you power band faster .a bigger gear will also multipie your torque and help get you off the line faster. And for you vetc owner's that mean's you will hit your sweet spot sooner. what iam trying to say is vetc will hit faster. SO why dont you honda guy's do it ? ? ?

 

fisrt of all I thought 4:56's were the hot ticket for fox body's. second alot of us do switch are final drives (same as changing your ring and pinion). also it doesn't change how fast your motor rev's, it changes your gear ratio. The motor will rev just as fast. but also dropping to a lower gear takes away top end. That's why guys drop in 4:56's and run big wide mickey's. another thing most mustangs came with 3:23. BTW Ford never made a 3:02 gear set
also that's VTEC and it has to do with camshaft timing

 

My brother runs 4.10 gears in his 5.0 didn't help him any against my b18c Civic

I think Im running 4.72 gears...something like that.

BTW we use lightened flywheels, higher comp. pistons, upgraded ecu's, manifolds...etc.etc.

You should look into what makes up a Jdm B18c-r motor I think they are one of the highest horsepower per liter n/a motors out there.

 

Our stock "rear end" is 4.40. A common mod is 4.78 or 4.93

 

how the hell run's 4.56 gear's on a street car man ? And you are right it is 3'23 gear's that come in the GT. my bad thank you BUT HATE TO TELL YOU GEAR'S WILL LET YOU REV FASTER AND WITH A LIGHT FLY WHEEL YOUR IN THE HOUSE. I KNOW I HAVE THEM ON MY GT . AND FORD MAKE'S 3.02 'S GO TO FORDMOTOR SPORT. NEXT THING IS WHO DOES TOP SPEED RUN'S? YES THEY DO TAKE AWAY FROM YOUR TOP END. BUT HONDA'S DON'T HAVE BIG TOP END . I KNOW I HAVE ONE EVERY DAY CAR WORK HOME SCHOOL. AND IF YOU TOP OUT EACH GEAR FASTER THAT MUST MEAN YOU CAN GET IN TO VTEC SOONER THANK YOU FOR REPLY

 

HEY RANGER DAN WHAT.S UP is the b18c a gsr motor iam new to import would so any help is great . what other modes do you have ? because a few bolt on's mod on a civic is will not take down a 5.0 stang. even if you had motor swap done he should take you. my cuz has a gsr and he run's 14'98 and that's driveing the hell out of it and that's his best run. now you do have his *** ON THE TOP END. 4.10 ARE NOT GOOD FOR THE HIGH WAY. YA WHAT MOD'S DO YOUR BRO HAVE ON HIS STANG.

 

The car doesn't rev faster it gets up to speed faster when the gears are engaged. If you left the car in neutral it would still REV just as fast. Also, if you raise the gear ratio you will get into the VTEC RPM range sooner. However, you will also hit red line sooner and will need to shift into a higher gear, thus starting the process all over again.

I'm not the best person to talk to about gear ratios, but I understand some of the basic rules. Anyway, I hope this helps a little.

 

We have many different gear ratios to choose from because all the B-series transmissions are interchangeable. With that said, a lot of the Japanese transmissions have very short ratios as it is, always landing you in the sweet spot if you shift properly. Some have extremely short ratios, such that people actually mod them to be longer so they don't have to cruise down the highway at 6 grand...

 

i have a ford racing cobra fly wheel that is what i should have said. So that is what make's my car rev fast. And yes gear's DO NOT make motor rev faster it get up to speed faster . thank you for your in put SPYDER ZEX. I did not know you guy had that much gear. But it make sence because honda's can rev high so you can do that. GT'S make peak power at 4.700 rpm so 3'73 is the best all around gear.but cobra's rev much higher so you can get a bigger gear. well now i understand thanks guy's

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black-Stang &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how the hell run's 4.56 gear's on a street car man ? And you are right it is 3'23 gear's that come in the GT. my bad thank you BUT HATE TO TELL YOU GEAR'S WILL LET YOU REV FASTER AND WITH A LIGHT FLY WHEEL YOUR IN THE HOUSE. I KNOW I HAVE THEM ON MY GT . AND FORD MAKE'S 3.02 'S GO TO FORDMOTOR SPORT. NEXT THING IS WHO DOES TOP SPEED RUN'S? YES THEY DO TAKE AWAY FROM YOUR TOP END. BUT HONDA'S DON'T HAVE BIG TOP END . I KNOW I HAVE ONE EVERY DAY CAR WORK HOME SCHOOL. AND IF YOU TOP OUT EACH GEAR FASTER THAT MUST MEAN YOU CAN GET IN TO VTEC SOONER THANK YOU FOR REPLY </TD></TR></TABLE>


??? Hondas are all top end.

90% of us are running 1.5L ~ 2.2L

You stang fellows are running 4.6L
You have us in displacement, you have us down low.
Most of our power IS high end power, that's where vtec helps.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black-Stang &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">HEY RANGER DAN WHAT.S UP is the b18c a gsr motor iam new to import would so any help is great . what other modes do you have ? because a few bolt on's mod on a civic is will not take down a 5.0 stang. even if you had motor swap done he should take you. my cuz has a gsr and he run's 14'98 and that's driveing the hell out of it and that's his best run. now you do have his *** ON THE TOP END. 4.10 ARE NOT GOOD FOR THE HIGH WAY. YA WHAT MOD'S DO YOUR BRO HAVE ON HIS STANG. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Black-Stang, Yeah Ive got some bolt-ons but the motor puts out like 200 horse at the flywheel before my upgraded ecu, Cat Back, Test pipe and CAI.

The jdm r motor has a stock 13-14 lb. flywheel 11.01 comp. and is pretty hopped up in every facet.

My brothers 5.0 has lightened pulleys, 4.10 posi, k&n filter and some other stuff I cant recall...he lives about 17 hours from me so I dont see it all to often.

Dont have problems taking down most 5.0's at the Track...but the 4.6 are something else.

At sea level my civic is capable or running 13.7 - 13.9 hopefully that will be quicker here pretty soon with the addition of camgears and some much needed tuning.

Its cool how you've come to this board seeking answers and not trying to stir stuff up. Im into domestics as well just spend more time on my Civic...better gas mileage, quicker in autox and something different to take to the track.

to 5.0's Easy and affordable to upgrade and have always liked the body styles even through all the changes.

 

I don't know what some of you are thinking Numerically raising a gear ratio let's the engine get to higher rpms quicker. Ex. If this wasn't the truth everyone would be putting in numerically low gears and getting to 200mph just as fast as they could get to 140mph with stock gears If you have a drive ratio of 2.41:1 versus 3.55:1 the 3.55:1 will let you get to the next gear faster but end up with a slower top end. While with a 2.41:1 it will take longer to go through each gear but you have a faster top end. AKA a high numerical gear ratio will help the engine through the gears faster.

 

Yeah I think thats been noted...what the guys were saying is it doesnt help your engine to rev quicker either in nuetral or how your motor would react with a lightened flywheel.

now c'mon were all those needed?

 

you guy's are all coollllllllllllllllll ANY ONE KNOW WHERE I CAN GET A CIVIC FOR 500 BUCK'S OR CRX

 

"BUT HATE TO TELL YOU GEAR'S WILL LET YOU REV FASTER AND WITH A LIGHT FLY WHEEL YOUR IN THE HOUSE"
are you on crack or something gears don't affect rev they affect rolling speed. the light flywheel will help throttle response. but the car still revs just as high............................

 

it seems that the motor revs faster because you are going through the gears faster. gear ratios have zero affect (sp?) on power output. as do flywheels.

anyways. stock honda gearing is pretty short. most people with b series (who know about the benfits of gearing) will usually do a 4.78, or 4.9 (like sgt said) and use civic si or ITR 1-4 gears. leaving the 5th gear in. the benefit of this is very short gearing, and a good cruising gear. We need such short gearing to stay in our powerband. the motors are so small you cant really afford to drop out of the powerband. this is especially true in all motor cars and sometimes turbo cars when done REALLY WRONG.

HTH.

 

sorry buddy but this is a honda page Ididnt know you mustang guys hung out here and prounced around like your some hot s$%t. All I can say is why change gears when its really hard in a honda and there is so many more mods to do. Say all you want about how fast you think your car is but most hondas with people that know what they are doing could kill a mustang. Not to mention 200,000 miles down the road we all will still be drivin when your on your 3'rd motor. So basically whatever man

 

BlackStang:
It doesnt necesarily need the upgraded Gearing to get the VTEC function faster. The gearing will get the RPMs moving faster but VTEC can also be achieved through the adjustment on the ECU.
The VTEC function can be adjusted to "turn on" at a lower RPM through an adjustable switch or a reprogrammed Chip on the ECU. It is advantageous to a certain point to hit VTEC earlier, but its not always Earlier the better.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95 lude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry buddy but this is a honda page Ididnt know you mustang guys hung out here and prounced around like your some hot s$%t. All I can say is why change gears when its really hard in a honda and there is so many more mods to do. Say all you want about how fast you think your car is but most hondas with people that know what they are doing could kill a mustang. Not to mention 200,000 miles down the road we all will still be drivin when your on your 3'rd motor. So basically whatever man</TD></TR></TABLE>

blackstang was only pointing out how much of a advantage higher gearing is for mustangs and why honda owners didn't do the same. There's no need to get defensive or start a imports vs. domestics war =P

 

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blackstang was only pointing out how much of a advantage higher gearing is for mustangs and why honda owners didn't do the same. There's no need to get defensive or start a imports vs. domestics war =P </TD></TR></TABLE>

Agreed, blackstang never said anything bad of Hondas. He merely asked a question.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95 lude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry buddy but this is a honda page Ididnt know you mustang guys hung out here and prounced around like your some hot s$%t. All I can say is why change gears when its really hard in a honda and there is so many more mods to do. Say all you want about how fast you think your car is but most hondas with people that know what they are doing could kill a mustang. Not to mention 200,000 miles down the road we all will still be drivin when your on your 3'rd motor. So basically whatever man</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well between the two of you I'd say you're the one picking a fight. Just because it's a different brand doesn't warrent letting insecurities get out of hand.