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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 11:44 AM
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Default Looking for a bigger front bar....any suggestions?

Trying to keep the car from running out of suspension travel. I know Mugen makes a 26mm bar, but $350 seems like about $150 of Mugen name.


(this is my co-driver btw)
I am running my Koni singles at full stiff in front and about 1 turn off full stiff in rear. I am not to concerned about understeer, because I can still stiffen up the rear with the shocks to dial that out.

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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 11:50 AM
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Default Re: Looking for a bigger front bar....any suggestions? (shamun)

Holy Body Roll, Batman!


I know EP Gonzales has the Mugen bar... and his ITR tracks flat. It may be a grip, but it works, eh?
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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 12:14 PM
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Look ma its a gsr
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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 01:31 PM
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Default Re: Looking for a bigger front bar....any suggestions? (shamun)

$350 is crazy but I'm not aware of anyone else that makes off the shelf bars as big as that for the front.
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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 01:43 PM
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get the JDM 25mm front and JDM 23mm rear. try http://www.rcrewracing.com for one
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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 02:41 PM
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how about throwing some springrate at it yo... and stop pussing around in stock class.

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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 02:54 PM
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He is DS which means he can only change the front sway bar and not the rear.
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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 10:26 PM
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get a Carbing
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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 10:28 PM
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Stock ITR sway bar and DIY welded plates
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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 11:58 PM
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Default Re: Looking for a bigger front bar....any suggestions? (shamun)

What spring rates are you running? instead of spending $360 on a front sway I would look into higher spring rates...just a thought.
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Old Jun 25, 2003 | 12:15 AM
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A better coilovers setup would definitely help more.
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Old Jun 25, 2003 | 12:32 AM
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DAMN!!! that is crazy. it sways more than my civic.


i think you need stiffer springs.

remember this, stiffening your shocks will not reduce body roll, it will only slow it down, if you didnt know.
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Old Jun 25, 2003 | 01:14 AM
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Is this view from the back of your car ?
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Old Jun 25, 2003 | 07:41 AM
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Default Re: Looking for a bigger front bar....any suggestions? (shamun)

He can't change his spring rates and he doesn't need better "coilovers," he has to keep stock springs... like someone else already said way back there...
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Old Jun 26, 2003 | 11:42 AM
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eibach makes some front swaybars dont they? it might have been a misprint but it said 27mm
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Old Jun 26, 2003 | 11:44 AM
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A larger front sway will give you pretty horrible understeer in the middle of those turns, and I'm not sure just changing tire pressures will help to dial out that understeer you'll gain....
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Old Jun 26, 2003 | 11:54 AM
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check out: http://www.sanerperffab.com
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Old Jun 26, 2003 | 01:06 PM
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I am not sure that a bar will make much difference with that?
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Old Jun 26, 2003 | 04:39 PM
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Default Re: Looking for a bigger front bar....any suggestions? (shamun)

What tires are you running and at what pressure? You might just be overdriving the tires/car, I do it all the time A little extra press in the rear will give you similar results as a larger anti-roll bar.
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Old Jun 26, 2003 | 04:46 PM
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Default Re: Looking for a bigger front bar....any suggestions? (shamun)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shamun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I am running my Koni singles at full stiff in front and about 1 turn off full stiff in rear. I am not to concerned about understeer, because I can still stiffen up the rear with the shocks to dial that out.

Thanks
Shawn</TD></TR></TABLE>

Regular single-adjustable Konis only adjust rebound, not compression. I'm thinking adjusting the rear shocks stiffer won't really help much to reduce understeer.
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Old Jun 26, 2003 | 07:01 PM
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I'm not sure if this would help you, but Ground Control makes these new Top Upper Shock mounts which give you 3/4 inch more travel. Thus the chances of bottoming out your shocks is less likely. Check out their website under new honda products.
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Old Jun 26, 2003 | 09:00 PM
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Almost everything everyone is suggesting is illegal for stock classes.

Being in stock there are just somethings you just have to accept. If you can get in touch with David Fauth (there is an article about his car, now DSP BMW, in this month Grassroot), he should be able to answer any questions you have. He has two stock titles in an ITR.
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 01:42 AM
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for your car to lift its *** like that, tires must grip the road like a car on tracks.
that **** is crazy.
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 08:16 AM
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WOW! There where a few Evos there

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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 08:54 AM
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If you end up looking for a 25mm front bar, I have one I'll sell for fairly cheap
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