brake pads (spoon/endless/project u)
It all comes down to what is the purpose of changing brake pads.
Circuit race - Hawk Blue, Porterfield R4 (i personally prefer hawk)
autocross - HP Plus
street - Type R stock is good, not too much dust.
there is no race and street brake pads. You can't use Hawk Blue and Porterfield R4 on street. HP Plus squeek very often on street and makes it very annoying
noise. Also, race pads need to warm up to reach its potential.
I have never used Spoon, I heard numerous commendation for Endless, but all
those commendations are from street, not track. I heard the brake line and calipers are good from Project U, but it all comes down to which Project u you are referring to, all of them have differeent purposes.
If it's only for street, stick with stock. You will be happier.
Circuit race - Hawk Blue, Porterfield R4 (i personally prefer hawk)
autocross - HP Plus
street - Type R stock is good, not too much dust.
there is no race and street brake pads. You can't use Hawk Blue and Porterfield R4 on street. HP Plus squeek very often on street and makes it very annoying
noise. Also, race pads need to warm up to reach its potential.
I have never used Spoon, I heard numerous commendation for Endless, but all
those commendations are from street, not track. I heard the brake line and calipers are good from Project U, but it all comes down to which Project u you are referring to, all of them have differeent purposes.
If it's only for street, stick with stock. You will be happier.
Actually Endless pads have outperformed any other pad I have ever tried regardles of intended use. NA-Y and NA-S are great street pads. CC-X is my personal favorite as a hyrbid street/track pad and the MA-11 are incredible race pads. They are expensive that's for sure but worth every penny. I've also heard good things on Project Mu but I haven't tried personally.
I have a similar related Q - I am looking to replace my calipers soon does anyone have the weight of the following (spoon, project mu, brembo, baer, willwood(spelling ?), spoon) if possible I would like 4 pot front and 2 pot rear, if you guys think this should be posted as a separate Q please tell me so - thanx
I've run with the Endless MA-11 @ the track and love the results
On the street I use NA-S up front and NA-Y in the rear.
They are pricey, but then again they are nicey
On the street I use NA-S up front and NA-Y in the rear.
They are pricey, but then again they are nicey
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Spoon 4 piston front calipers are about 5.7 lbs each. VERY light. No reason at all to get 2 piston rears and I don't think anyone makes any. I have CC-X pads all the way around for street but haven't installed yet (waiting till I can afford my 4 piston front calipers). NA-Y's last a long time. At least 40,000 miles.
so endless na-y would be great for street use and light track time? i like the spoons cuz their yellow and i think it would look "cool" if people could see em...(i know kinda ricey).
A brand not mentioned are the AEM/Nissin pads:
Which are worth looking into if the pads are for the street.
I bought a set of these when they first came out and finally put them in a few weeks ago. On the street they are great...
But on the track they aren't so hot...ran them at Streets (with Motul 600) a few weeks ago and roasted them good. Front pads are all toasty and cracked. Not a good thing.
So I switched to Porterfield R4S before the Expo (with Motul RVF 600 fluid) and they are awsome. Do note though, Porterfield shipped the wrong rear pads (part number was right, but just packed out wrong...d'ohh!) so I ran the AEM pads on the rear...and I wore through about 50% of the REAR pads at the Expo. The front's I probably used <25% (didn't measure the depth of pads remaining)...tons of life left there.
After I run through the R4S, I'll probably just go up to the R4 pads...
Hopefully that info helps somebody out there.
-Geo
Which are worth looking into if the pads are for the street.
I bought a set of these when they first came out and finally put them in a few weeks ago. On the street they are great...
But on the track they aren't so hot...ran them at Streets (with Motul 600) a few weeks ago and roasted them good. Front pads are all toasty and cracked. Not a good thing.
So I switched to Porterfield R4S before the Expo (with Motul RVF 600 fluid) and they are awsome. Do note though, Porterfield shipped the wrong rear pads (part number was right, but just packed out wrong...d'ohh!) so I ran the AEM pads on the rear...and I wore through about 50% of the REAR pads at the Expo. The front's I probably used <25% (didn't measure the depth of pads remaining)...tons of life left there.
After I run through the R4S, I'll probably just go up to the R4 pads...
Hopefully that info helps somebody out there.
-Geo
I've run with the Endless MA-11 @ the track and love the results
On the street I use NA-S up front and NA-Y in the rear.
On the street I use NA-S up front and NA-Y in the rear.
For street I use NA-Y front and NA-S rear. They are ok, better than stock but nothing *too* impressive. Dusts are really easy to clean. I've used the NA-Y for track once and they can't hold up to the temperature. Go for at least the CC-series if you plan for track use.
I have the NA-Y for both front and rear for almost 2 years, and it still going strong. Very little to no noise and very little dust. I love them and I think it worth every penny.
After the NA-Y is done, I will give the project mu front pad a try, and will run the new NA-D at the rear.
But I have to wait until the NA-Y wear first, which will be awhile from the way it last month.
After the NA-Y is done, I will give the project mu front pad a try, and will run the new NA-D at the rear.
But I have to wait until the NA-Y wear first, which will be awhile from the way it last month.
Another option you may want to try are ART pads I sent out a set to yoshi to test out at the expo and he loves them just ask him
Perfectly streetable pads, but work wayyy better as they get hot
Even w/ the soft pedal feel (I thought Motul600 was supposed to prevent this?) over the weekend, the pads still worked well during the ~4hrs of punishment I gave it. I know I'll be calling up Mike for another set when these wear out.yoshi - who needs to flush his brakes again this weekend
i ran my active gate brakes this weekend, i highly rec. them..a little noisy on the streets but the grab awesome! the kit is a very good buy for what you get..i dont have expirience with the other systems, so just giving you some other options
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