What gen is your car?

What benefits did you notice?

Any negative effect?

What brand, and how much did you pay?

Thanks.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kotetu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What gen is your car?

5th gen

What benefits did you notice?

Much easier heel&toe, revmatching, and accleration; woke the h22 UP!

Any negative effect?
None --possibly the fact that you can roast your clutch a bit easier, but it just requires a touch more finess under your left foot.

What brand, and how much did you pay?

Fidanza; 300

Thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

5th gen

revs a **** ton faster

clutch masters, about 8 lbs

no real disadvantage except loss of engine momentum (doesn't matter with boost though)

don't remember what it cost

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted97Lude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">5th gen

revs a **** ton faster

clutch masters, about 8 lbs

no real disadvantage except loss of engine momentum (doesn't matter with boost though)

don't remember what it cost</TD></TR></TABLE>

What he said just i'm not under boost
And i paid about 280 for mine

 

Yup when I got mine it revs a lot faster that was the first thing I noticed.

 

sorry if I sound stupid but... I can only change the flywheel if my car is a stick right?

 

correct.

 

Loss of engine momentum means your RPMs drop faster too right? So a very light flywheel (8lbs) will lose rpm pretty fast?

Does that mean while shifting you drop more RPM than stock ?

 

yes

mine drop ridiculously fast now with the light weight flywheel, and knife edged cranks, it'd gona be retarded fast once my engine goes back in without and balance shafts

 

correct me if i'm wrong, but a heavier flywheel only really helps with the inital ummph it takes to get going when you first start out in first gear and the inital hit of the engine when you shift back into a gear. After that first "hit" if you'd call it like that, it would be a disadvantage since the engine now has to spin both the tires AND the flywheel.

The RPM's drop faster, but for me it's not too fast at all. Honestly it seems to be about right.

 

What about longetivity?

How long will, say, a Fidanza lw flywheel last with a stock clutch (Exedy brand).

 

as long as a stock one.

Fidanza uses steel plate inserts that can be replaced if it wears too far

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fe519 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry if I sound stupid but... I can only change the flywheel if my car is a stick right?

correct</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sorry dude, but that is completely WRONG. Cars with automatic transmissions DO have flywheels. Here's a pic from Honda Tuning of the transmission of a automatic EM Civic: Its not the best picture, but you can almost see where the torque converter bolts to the flywheel:

Also here's an excerpt from the article, which was on modifying an auto Civic's torque converter:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A brief description of how a torque converter works:. A torque converter is a fluid coupling between the engine and automatic transmission that allows the transmission to stay in gear when the car is stopped. Imagine a donut, Now, cut it in half across the circumference. Half of this donut is securely fastened to the engine's flywheel, and always moves at the same speed as the engine itself. It's known as the pump. The other half is connected through a shaft in the hole of the donut to the transmission, and is called the turbine. Between the two halves of the donut is a device called a stator.</TD></TR></TABLE>
We on the same page now? So dude, if you have an auto tranny, you can buy a lighter weight flywheel, but God only knows what the effects will be on your torque converter. I would ask a tranny pro first, just to make sure.

 

Isn't that called a flex-plate? Which is already as light as you can get.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kb58 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Isn't that called a flex-plate? Which is already as light as you can get.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kb58 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Isn't that called a flex-plate? Which is already as light as you can get.</TD></TR></TABLE>
According to that article and 2 others that I found it's supposedly actually called a flywheel. I'll do another Google search and dig up the articles. Gimme a sec...

The articles that I read all used the term flywheel when describing the workings of a auto tranny set-up, but when I looked up <U>flexplate</U> I found out that they AREN'T the same thing, (so I'm wrong, I admit it!)but flexplates serve pretty much the same function on automatics as flywheels do on manuals.

Interestingly enough though, they (auto flexplates) weigh A LOT MORE than manual flywheels. <U>The average weight of a flexplate for an import (such as an Accord V6) was over 20 lbs</U> and the weight increases exponentially depending on the whp of the application. For instance, some flexplates on 300+ whp domestics (Vettes, Camaros, etc) weighs well over 40 lbs!

There are lightweight flexplate alternatives available though, even for import applications, so there is some hope for SS Lude drivers. But a torque converter upgrade and a tranny cooler would be recommended.


Modified by Final Flash at 9:34 PM 6/20/2003

 

it's called a flex-plate. it's so completely different from a flywheel its not even funny. if you've seen one, you know.
the only automatic that actually uses a flywheel would be the bmw smg, the aston martin vanquish, the 550 maranello, etc. and these are paddle-shifters (not true automatics- they're computer-driven clutch transmissions)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sloaccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it's called a flex-plate. it's so completely different from a flywheel its not even funny. if you've seen one, you know.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Excuse my ignorance, and no I've never seen one, but from what I've read don't they serve the same purpose connecting to the torque converter as a flywheel does with the clutch?

 

I have a CM FW on my lude and would reccommend it for all H22's. You can feel a difference right after install.