Integra Questions
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This is my first post on this site, so YO. I am looking to buy a new car pretty soon got bout 10k to work with. I was thinking about an Integra ,because its got a big a$$ aftermarket and they are cool cars. I was wondering how easy is it to make these things run 13-12? Also, with all te JDM parts could you just relpace some parts without getting a new engine. Like, a JDM header, or JDM throttle body?( I dont know $hit about cars as you can tell) THX in advance
This is my first post on this site, so YO. I am looking to buy a new car pretty soon got bout 10k to work with. I was thinking about an Integra ,because its got a big a$$ aftermarket and they are cool cars. I was wondering how easy is it to make these things run 13-12? Also, with all te JDM parts could you just relpace some parts without getting a new engine. Like, a JDM header, or JDM throttle body?( I dont know $hit about cars as you can tell) THX in advance
Do some research. My only advice to someone new to the integra world is search. Also, read the articles on this website. http://www.team-integra.net
BTW it will cost some money but yes you could have a 12 sec. teg. Are you trying to go all motor aka NA or turbo/supercharger/nitrous aka FI?
BTW it will cost some money but yes you could have a 12 sec. teg. Are you trying to go all motor aka NA or turbo/supercharger/nitrous aka FI?
Thx for replying so quickly. I will go Forced Induction. Somewhere I saw that if I am gonna do 1/4 racing that I dont need Vtec. This true of false? How many miles on a Teg is too many miles?Also, how much HP can the stock motor handle? (I hope I did the right thing when i Quick Replyed)
IMO I don't think VTEC is as good as people say it is. I think they just overrate it, but since I have never driven a car with VTEC, I wouldn't know. If you have 10k to spend on buying the car I'd say to get a car with around 40-50k miles. Depending on which Integra you get, I would say near 200hp would be okay.
from what i understand, non-vtec integras respond well to fi. vtec would be unnecessary for a 1/4 if you had a non-vtec with some really wild cams, but then you sacrifice a comfortable idle and low/mid rpm, so if its a daily driver, thatd prolly be a bad idea. so from that perspective, vtec comes out ahead.
regarding mileage, hondas last forever and a day, but i wouldnt buy anything with too much more than 100k mi. hope ive helped.
regarding mileage, hondas last forever and a day, but i wouldnt buy anything with too much more than 100k mi. hope ive helped.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSvtec03 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">from what i understand, non-vtec integras respond well to fi. vtec would be unnecessary for a 1/4 if you had a non-vtec with some really wild cams, but then you sacrifice a comfortable idle and low/mid rpm, so if its a daily driver, thatd prolly be a bad idea. so from that perspective, vtec comes out ahead.
.</TD></TR></TABLE> vtec "equipped" cars respond just as good if not better to FI than non-vtec "equipped" cars. What do you mean by vtec would be unnecessary for the quarter mile? Why wouldn't you want to go faster? From a performance point of view the b18c will ome out ahead of the b18b.
.</TD></TR></TABLE> vtec "equipped" cars respond just as good if not better to FI than non-vtec "equipped" cars. What do you mean by vtec would be unnecessary for the quarter mile? Why wouldn't you want to go faster? From a performance point of view the b18c will ome out ahead of the b18b.
yup... if you're going FI, save the $$$ and get an rs/ls/gs....
i want to comment on vtec being overrated... now it very well may be...
but hey...even my g/f wishes she had a vtec teggy
she drives my old RS now, but loves riding in the GS-R!
Modified by skunkintegra at 7:14 PM 6/18/2003
i want to comment on vtec being overrated... now it very well may be...
but hey...even my g/f wishes she had a vtec teggy
she drives my old RS now, but loves riding in the GS-R!
Modified by skunkintegra at 7:14 PM 6/18/2003
im just going by what ive heard, im no expert. but i hear from a lot of people that an LS is good for turbo, plus it has the lower cr for it. and if you had really aggressive cams in a non-vtec, it would outrun the b18c in the low/mid rpm range. they would have to be pretty aggressive, mind you. but stock for stock, yeah, a b18c will obviously always come out on top
non vtec w/ aggressive cams vs a vtec w/ aggressive cams .. vtec will still come out on top. vtec allows for effeciency in power gains. it'd make sense to have it if possible. and i can't really see how FI would react negatively in a vtec motor vs having a non-vtec motor.
So, I don't need a VTEC for 1/4 racing, thats pretty cool. Thats gonna save me a good amount of money. So, what all would I need to do to the motor so it would handle the horses to get into the 13-12s?What year would be the bets year for me to buy?Thx alot for the advice
It's always better vtec than to not have it. If this 10k is what you want to spend and have a fast car go w/the gsr. You don't have to lower your compression to go turbo, so don't buy into all that jazz. You can run about 8psi on stock internals. So get a gsr and a custom turbo kit and you will walk on a b18b(nonvtec) w/the same setup.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSvtec03 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im just going by what ive heard, im no expert. but i hear from a lot of people that an LS is good for turbo, plus it has the lower cr for it. and if you had really aggressive cams in a non-vtec, it would outrun the b18c in the low/mid rpm range. they would have to be pretty aggressive, mind you. but stock for stock, yeah, a b18c will obviously always come out on top</TD></TR></TABLE> you heard wrong. Lower compression=less power. I don't see whats so good about that. if ls is good for turbo than a gsr is good for turbo. psi for psi, a gsr will come out on top. If you put an aggressive cam into a vtec, it would destroy an ls equipped w/ aggressive cams. I don't understand what point you are trying to make.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSvtec03 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im just going by what ive heard, im no expert. but i hear from a lot of people that an LS is good for turbo, plus it has the lower cr for it. and if you had really aggressive cams in a non-vtec, it would outrun the b18c in the low/mid rpm range. they would have to be pretty aggressive, mind you. but stock for stock, yeah, a b18c will obviously always come out on top</TD></TR></TABLE>
The reason people say that LS is good for turbo is because a lot of non-vtec motors boost a lot better than VTEC cars.
You have to tune VTEC or get proper cams for boost because VTEC causes 'overlap' and boost usually flows right thru the motor at high RPM's, thus losing boost.
With the LS, there is less overlap if any, and you do not lose boost.
VTEC + boost is good, but in order to run the best as far as that goes, proper cams are necessary. Obviously you will not want to run boost with ITR cams, or even any Toda's, etc...
Things like second gen B16A's and stock GSR cam lobes are mild enough to not cause a lot of overlap when boosting, so thus it's good, and VTEC will let more boost in than the LS.
Just depends on the set up.
The reason people say that LS is good for turbo is because a lot of non-vtec motors boost a lot better than VTEC cars.
You have to tune VTEC or get proper cams for boost because VTEC causes 'overlap' and boost usually flows right thru the motor at high RPM's, thus losing boost.
With the LS, there is less overlap if any, and you do not lose boost.
VTEC + boost is good, but in order to run the best as far as that goes, proper cams are necessary. Obviously you will not want to run boost with ITR cams, or even any Toda's, etc...
Things like second gen B16A's and stock GSR cam lobes are mild enough to not cause a lot of overlap when boosting, so thus it's good, and VTEC will let more boost in than the LS.
Just depends on the set up.
this guy knows what i mean about the non-vtecs with turbo. and i know vtec is better than non, check out my name. i wasnt comparing a non-vtec with aggressive cams to a vtec w aggressive cams. i was comparing nonvtec w aggressive cams to a stock vtec motor. and yeah, 8 psi on stock internals, but past that dont you want lower compression pistons? i think you guys are misinterpreting me...im really not as stupid as you think i sound...honest
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