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Old Jun 15, 2003 | 09:15 PM
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On my way to the Finals game, my car just completely starts to shut down... I noticed i had gone through a big puddle... going around 20 miles and hr...


I shut the car off.... It doesn't start........I had the car towed to my house...

What do I do, I'm worried my car is dead any tips... any hope? Let me know...


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Old Jun 15, 2003 | 09:20 PM
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Did the car die after going through the puddle? Take off the AEM and see if there is water in the intake manafold. If there is then you may have hydrolocked the car. I would put the car up in the air and look for cracks in the block and possibly take off the valve cover to see if water is in there. This happened to my civic and there was a very large crack in my block near the oil pan.

Good luck I hope your car has no major damage and just needs to dry out.
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Old Jun 15, 2003 | 09:21 PM
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oh ****, might be waterlocked, definitely need to get that checked out. A decent water lock means your car is totalled.
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Old Jun 15, 2003 | 09:24 PM
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It started to die like i couldn't get any acceleration, I immediately pulled over.... and turned the car off....
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Old Jun 15, 2003 | 09:25 PM
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Take off the CAI, tell me if you see water.
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Old Jun 15, 2003 | 09:27 PM
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should i do this now or can it wait in the morning Car parked in the street and I don't have a decent light out there...
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Old Jun 15, 2003 | 09:28 PM
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**** im worried I definately have no money to pay for this sort of this thing.....

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Old Jun 15, 2003 | 09:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94autotegLS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">should i do this now or can it wait in the morning Car parked in the street and I don't have a decent light out there...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well if it is hydrolocked there is nothing you can do really. If you are very concerned and can't sleep then go ahead and do it. If not just wait till morning.
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Old Jun 15, 2003 | 09:35 PM
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whats the worst thing that can happen?


money wise.....
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Old Jun 15, 2003 | 09:38 PM
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the worst case scenario means new motor
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Old Jun 15, 2003 | 09:38 PM
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I needed a new motor! I blew my 1.6 ex crap motor so I bought a LS motor for my civic.

Hydrolock usualy will = new motor (hopefully just the block)
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Old Jun 15, 2003 | 09:41 PM
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So we're talking around 700-800 bucks? I have a friend who works for.. basically "lunch" a real good guy... who knows his hondas


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Old Jun 15, 2003 | 09:42 PM
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And do Insurance companies usually cover this sort of thing?
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Old Jun 15, 2003 | 09:47 PM
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My insurance company did cover it HOWEVER...They claimed it as an accident so I did not collect. They called it a collision with water??? WTFE
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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 12:20 AM
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Hope it isn't hydrolock. I have heard a few stories of people getting hydrolock and they all were really pissed & sad about it.
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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 01:17 AM
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who can correctly define the term "hydro-lock"??

let's hear it...
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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 02:04 AM
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Hydro-locking is what happens when water gets sucked up into the engine's air intake (in his case, his Cold Air Intake). The water gets drawn into the cylinders, and when the pistons come up, the water doesn't compress like air does (everyone should know that). So what happens is that the pistons, rods, valves and cylinder walls all combine to create an instant metal sculpture and if the rods don't bend, they can easily break through the block.
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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 05:17 AM
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I had a similar experience in my car but mine stalled out right away. This was the result. My car still ran, but had to sit for like 15 minutes before it would refire. It was down on power a bit but I raced it at several events without a problem. You probably hurt the motor some, but I'd say there is a good possibility that once it dries out it will run again.

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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 06:09 AM
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pull your spark plugs and turn the motor over...if there is any water in the cylinders it will come out......dont look into the spark plug hole while craking.....if water comes out then let the motor sit for a little while with a towel covering the spark plug holes to dry it out.....how deep was the puddle???? if you were going 20 mph i wouldn't think the filter could pick up enough water......might be something electrical....good luck
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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 09:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2kGS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh ****, might be waterlocked, definitely need to get that checked out. A decent water lock means your car is totalled. </TD></TR></TABLE>
car is not tottaled. just the engine..
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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 11:42 AM
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Pulled the spark plugs out this afternoon............ turned it over and NO WATER CAME OUT


Before I pulled the plugs and tried to start it, it wouldn't start The motor didn't sound horrible (kinda how it sounds when you battery is drained...... kinda struggling but no pinging)

What do i do now?
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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 12:00 PM
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maybe the water shorted something electrical in the engine bay. Maybe you never sucked any in the motor at all!
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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 12:05 PM
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Maybe

I have yet to pull out the CAI. Now i have two hrs to make this decision... Should I notify the insurance or try to fix it myself (with help of a friend)

my deductible is only 250 of course it is likely to go up...
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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 12:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94autotegLS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Pulled the spark plugs out this afternoon............ turned it over and NO WATER CAME OUT


Before I pulled the plugs and tried to start it, it wouldn't start The motor didn't sound horrible (kinda how it sounds when you battery is drained...... kinda struggling but no pinging)

What do i do now?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Were the spark plugs wet? if not, check to see if your getting spark and fuel.
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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 12:09 PM
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Try turning the engine by hand with the plugs out.
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