We just finished the b18c1 swap into my 91 civic si and when the wheels are turned to either side, like almost all the way over, a metal squealling or scretching sound comes from the hub area on just the left side, I believe. Could it be the dust sheild vibrating? I can't figure it out? And I don't know if this is normally but the car vibrates quite a bit at certain rpm's, like when it's reving down in gear and in the lower rpm range. I used HCP mounts by the way, and it's a 95 b18c1 running obd-1 w/blown90hatch's conversion harness.

 

i think its your wheel bearings. do a search on "wheel bearing"

heres one topic

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=482033

 

you take the dust shields out of the hubs?

 

Sounds like the dust shields Evan. Damn ive been goneawhile - when did u decide to go for the was...er i mean b18c?



-Todd

 

I took the spacers out, but not the dust Shields because I didn't exactly know where they were and what they looked like, plus the axles fit in no prob. Damn, so I gotta take the damn axles out again . What exactly does the dust shield look like, is it the rubber ring after the spacer in the hub, or is it on the axles. I looked on the hasport sight, but couldn't really get a good picture of it. And the swap guide I was using from someones website showed an arrow to the axles, and not the hub, so I was pretty confused there. You'd think that if me and my buddy could do this swap, we'd be able to find the stupid dust shield, go figure .I used 94+ GSR axles.

 

(Pic is from a previous post from reane)
This is what my hubs look like with the spacer removed. And the spacer I removed is like a big metal flared ring that I popped off with a cro-bar. So do I need to remove that first rubber thing in the pic, or do I need to remove the rubber thing on my GSR axles?


And, I decided if I was gunna do a swap, I might as well do one that I won't want saomething else later on, so I went quite a bit out of my budget and went all out, and I love it. Now I'm working full time to pay for it Torque is nice.


Modified by Si-Yaaa! at 9:29 AM 6/15/2003


Modified by Si-Yaaa! at 9:29 AM 6/15/2003

 

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heres one topic

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=482033
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Damn man you shouldnt give false information like that. Hes not complaining of road noise while he's driving

EDIT - Check the dust shields

 

bump, please let me know which part is the dust shield.

 

This is a pic of the dust shield:


you also have to remove the rubber part on the axle that goes into the hub

 

This is Evan on my buddies name, just so you know. He's the guy who did the swap with me.

ok, so I have taken out the dust shield. I didn't take out the rubber part on the axles. I didn't know I was supposed to and it looked like it didn't want to come off. But why would that make a grinding noise?

and thanks for the pic man.

 

bump

 

Just to clairify, from what I've seen on here, I HAVE taken out the METAL dust shield(round flared ring), and I HAVEN'T taken off the rubber thing I'm supposed to take off, which I don't understand. IS it the rubber ring on the axles, or is the rubber ring in the hub? Please help me out.

I also get mad vabrations down low in the RPM range for some reason, everything and it's mother vibrates. My glovebox sounds like a snair drum. Could this be from not bending down the rear crossmember?

 

nobody know's? this is really making me sad. I don't know why it makes this noise, I notice especially when I got over a big bump or the wheels are pushed up, like around a tight corner, ya know?

 

What i have *heard* is that u are supposed to take off the little rubber dust seal on the AXLE. I hear it causes the axle to bind. Try taking it out and see what happens. As for the rear crossmember, i know for a fact that u do need to bend the lip of it down slightly. But if u didnt jus look down there and see if the L bracket is leaning on the crossmember. If it is, that will definitely cause madd vibrations in the car.

 

You have to bend down that lip in the rear. Also look for little things you could have missed or forgotten. Did you bang out the spot for the alternator? Have you checked your wheel bearings to ensure there good? They could cause vibration.

Check your tie rods, inner and outer, as well as your ball joints. Another thing how is your rack? Do you have any excessive wheel play,or vibrations coming through the steering wheel?

All of these things could be contributing to the problems your explaining. Let me tell you I've been through it. So far I've replace wheel bearings, tie rod ends, steering rack, and ball joints.

Just give everything a once over and pay attention to the little things you may have taken for granted. Also those dust shields, I had mine in with my first set of axles, and never had a problem that could have been attributed to them.

Good luck

Edit: just thought of one more thing. if you bent in one of your brake shileds, when you turn that could cause some screeching noise.

 

hey can u giove me some tips on the b18c1 swap and uhh where did u get that harness??

 

ok, so I figured out what that screeching sound is, it's my altenator pulley rubbing on the side of the fender well. I dented it out, but it's just barely doing it on the bottom, and I guess when I go over a bump or sharp turn the body flex's and makes it rub, because it only does it under those conditions.

And I think I'll try to take those rubber things out to see if that's part of my vibration.

But yeah, I need to bend down the L-Bracket because the car vibrates like a biatch . Anybody know a tip to do this with the engine in? Thanks for all your help and I got my harness from blown90hatch - which made the swap pretty easy, just lots of little things go wrong sometimes so be ready for that.

 

I was going to suggest checking the alternator pully or the crank pully, I remember someone haveing a problem a while back with a b18 and the crank pully interfereing with the front suspension with certain mounts...but it sounds like you figured it out. Im going to PM you with some ?'s whenever you get a chance :D

Brian

 

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Yeah, that is a pita when the motor is in. The only thing that has really worked well for me is using a solid piece of steel and a little 5 lb sledge and hammer it. Kinda shady, but has worked for me.

 

arent you suppose to remove the dust shields on an EF for a B series swap?? that's what i heard throught the grap vine

 

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I've got a sledge hammer, but not a peice of steel, hehe. I think I'm gunna put it on a hoist and use a plasma cutter to get rid of some metal . And I just took out the dust seals on the axles themselves and they looked pretty torn up when I took them off, so for sure they DO have to come off, and now the car is a bit smoother but still vibrates mad, but thats next. Thanks guys for all your help. I wouldn't have taken the dust shields off without your help.

 

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Does it vibrate under acceleration? I had that problem in my EF and my axles were just worn out. Too many times of replacing the boots and not replaing the axles.

J

 

It mostlty vibrates when decelerating in gear, or basically mostly from 2000-4000rpm's doing anything. But I do know that the bracket is hitting the crossmember. The axles I got were from boosted_99_si (or something like that), and they looked real nice before I put them in. Thanks for the tips man.

 

I get that vibration too when de-accelerating during the rpm range of 2-4 K. I wouldn't worry about it, i think thats just because of the stiff motor mounts. BTW, which mounts did u go with?

 

Ok cool, that make me feel better. I went with the HCP mounts, I got the new style with the painted driver side mount. I got the mount's, linkage, and throttle cable braket for $350 from prospeed in Anehiem