all right here's the deal, my college teacher and I have a $10 bet. he thinks my 95 gsr has less than 100hp at the wheels. can some body help me out what did yalls dyno at for your base line?

 

well explian this to him

170 flywheel horse power.

18% driveline loss for all honda's

139.4whp


also to find flywheel horsepower,

whp x 1.22 = BHP

GSR

139.4 x 1.22 = 170.068

 

even an LS has more than 100whp

~115whp for an LS...so tell your professor to eat it because a gs-r obviously has more.

 

tell ur prof he/she is a jackass and tell him to fork ova the cash... take $20 just for being a stupid bet

 

baseline for my 2000 GSR was 135.

 

just show him the spec for bseries from http://www.bseries.net
and you can let him know you even have more than 100 ft-lbs of torque too!
and don't forget your $10

 

You should inform your professor of his ignorance around many other very intelligent co-workers of his. This way here he will understand the feeling of humiliation. The kind that he apparently tried to get you to go through by saying your car wasn't even going to put 100 hp to the wheels. You should make this moment of taking money from a teacher priceless

 

18%? I have always used 13%.... is this documented anywhere?

EDIT: This got me searching for an answer, which can be backed up by posting your baseline (NO mods) HP against Honda's crank ratings...

For example (from a reputable magazine) "The 2001 Acura Integra GS-R carried a factory claim of 170 hp and turned 150 hp on our dyno."
Assuming this is correct - 170 HP - 13.34% - 150 WHP.

With this in mind, we should again, get people to post baseline HP and average for the drivetrain loss.


Modified by 96IntegraRS at 1:43 PM 6/12/2003

 

Would this be the same for determining torque??? I have a stock 00 LS A/T

 

I just saw that you have an A/T, which definitely has a greater loss than 13-18%. Anybody have any ideas as to how much loss on A/T?

The answer to the question is no, because increase in torque is not linear like a HP increase.

Example - Stock B18B, 142 HP, 126 TQ. My car (on dyno) 193 HP, 156 TQ.

Ratio - 142 over 126 = 192 over 170 170 doesn't equal 156.

 

is the 18% in correlation to the weight of the stock flywheel?

 

what does ur professor teach?

 

Where are you getting the 18% figure?

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hes the automotive head chairman, he teaches altrnative fuels, i think hes just a hippie. he called my apexi n1 (weld on type) "a shitty *** muffler for a shitty car. the only fast car is a domestic"

 

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You're professor sounds like an *******

 

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"funky town tx" hmmm... do you go to Texas A&M?
that would explain your prof.

 

18% is about right...
if you take an LS motor...crank rated @ around 140-142

-18% equals to around 115hp. this is what the average LS will roll bone stock.

 

I disagree with the percentage. (see the above posts)

Since there is no "definite" answer to be had, we'll have to average all the baseline runs and maybe someone somewhere has the real answer...