I am considering to purchase my friends Cusco zero 1 for my ITR. Does anyone have this set-up. If you do, how do you like It? Thanks

 

why are you looking at the cusco suspension?

 

why not?

he's asking for people's opinions and experiences with it... perhaps he's getting a good deal on them or something.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ajchen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why not?

he's asking for people's opinions and experiences with it... perhaps he's getting a good deal on them or something.

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::rereads the post:: okay. i'm tired and i think i just read the last sentence.

 

my friend is selling them to me for 800 bucks, the suspension is only used for 1 month.

 

Hmm. Seems like a good price. Might need some of the JDM ****** to chime in on this one.. Do you know the spring rates?

 

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thats me :laughing:

of course they are gonna be the best ev4r....they're jdm arent they?

 

i'm running cusco comp-s on my GSR (cheapo cuscos, no dampening - only height adjustable) and i'm very happy with their performance. i have 8kF and 5kR (i think the spring rates are the same for zero1 but you can check http://www.cusco.co.jp to make sure), and they are very streetable - and also hold up admirably for occasional auto-x as well. they may be a bit too stiff for some, but i like the feel of the road and even if i had dampening adjustability i'd keep it at stiff all the time. they hold my wheels to the road very well and the car feels very balanced and stable. i'd love to drive a car with zero1 suspension and find out how it differs.

$800 is a good price

 

I have the Zero-2 suspension w/ pillowball upper mounts on my Type R and love them. $800 for a set of Zero-1's is an AMAZING deal. Do you know if his has the regular upper mounts or pillowball mounts?

The spring rates for the Zero's are 9k in the front and 6k in the rear.

BTW... I work for Nukabe Automotive which is the US authorized distributor for Cusco. We've been working with Cusco to bring the product here for over a year now. We are currently prototyping specific product for the US market... one of which is the brake cylinder stopper for the LHD cars. I have a LHD version on my Type R right now... and we will get our first shipment of them in about a month. The website is currently under development, but you can check there periodically for updates.

http://www.napsusa.com

If anyone wants any Cusco items for their cars, let me know. They just came out with a 25mm rear sway for the DC2 ITR. We will have some shortly.

Thanks,
Brad

brad.himes@napsusa.com

 

The price sounds good but let's look at things in the long run.

A few years down the road, say the shocks need to be serviced or you want to change spring rates and the shocks will need to be revalved. Where are you going to send them? Odds are that they will have to be shipped to Cusco of Japan.

What if something brakes? Any kind of warrenty or do you just eat the lost?

Just some things to think about.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Geratol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The price sounds good but let's look at things in the long run.

A few years down the road, say the shocks need to be serviced or you want to change spring rates and the shocks will need to be revalved. Where are you going to send them? Odds are that they will have to be shipped to Cusco of Japan.

What if something brakes? Any kind of warrenty or do you just eat the lost?

Just some things to think about.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Also what do you use the car for?

If you're just looking to lower it, you can use Ground Control's on stock shocks which will be a lot cheaper.

 

We will be offering the service here. The shocks are not rebuildable, they are replaceable. The idea behind that is the cost of revalving vs. the cost of a new shock is about the same, but by just swapping out the shock for another one requires less down time for the vehicle. We will service and take care of any issues with Cusco items in the future. I was sent to Japan for training on the rebuild and installation process of all their products including LSD's.

Also, the Zero-1's do not offer adjustable dampening, but the shock can be upgraded at a later time to the adjustable Zero-2's. All the Zero series coilovers feature shocks made by Showa. If you've ever owned a dirt bike, 4 wheeler, etc. you've heard of Showa.

So in the end, it won't be as bad as you think. We are constantly getting shipments from Japan, in order to build the stock to support the U.S. market.

Brad

 

Another nice feature of the Zero series is that the shock casing is adjustable as well as the spring perch. This way you can raise and lower the vehicle without reducing or effecting the shock stroke and preload.

 

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How much are these new replacement shocks?

 

For the Zero1's they start at $130 and Zero2's they start at $200. I would need a part number of the suspension to verify it is the same as the current ones.

If you have any questions regarding the quality or fitment of Cusco, hop on any of the Subaru or Nissan forums.

Thanks,
Brad

 

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Showa makes a lot of OEM shocks/struts including those for Honda.

 

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What about re-valving to change damping characteristics for different spring rates?

Stateside service is a huge bonus for autocrossers/open-trackers/racers...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18c1eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For the Zero1's they start at $130 and Zero2's they start at $200. I would need a part number of the suspension to verify it is the same as the current ones.

If you have any questions regarding the quality or fitment of Cusco, hop on any of the Subaru or Nissan forums.

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I'm not questioning the quality of Cusco as I have seen and use some of their products. It just seems odd to replace the whole shock when it would be cheaper to have the shock serviced. I'm sure you could order the shock assembly for just about any coilover but it just isn't cost effective.

 

This is their method they use in Japan and it seems to work very well. I know this was one of my concerns when I took this job, but according to them, the overall effectiveness of this method is much easier in the end. Less down time equals happier consumers.

Brad

 

in response to the original post, I've got Zero-1's on my 6th gen Civic, and I think they're amazing, like someone said, some may find them rather stiff for daily driving because of the lack of dampening, but if you want some decent suspension without breaking your bank for some JIC's FLT-A2 or Zeal's Function B6, I think Cusco Zero-1 will hold your ground for some good road feel for daily driving. I couldn't answer as to how well my Zero-1's perform on track, but I've yet to test, hopefully this summer? Hopefully...

 

Thanks, for all the replys....I just finished installing them today...the zero 1 rides great. Its nice and stiff, but not to bouncy. I will post pics up as soon as I get a scanner.