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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 03:19 PM
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Default What kind of damage could the balancing shafts being off a couple teeth cause?

Just as teh title states. The balance shaft closer to the front of the car was off 1 teeth, and the second shaft closest to the cabin was off 2 teeth. What damage could this have caused. I would think it would cause maybe a wobbling of some sort, damage to the bearings, etc?
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 05:52 PM
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Default Re: What kind of damage could the balancing shafts being off a couple teeth cause? (MordecaiPSI)

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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 08:04 PM
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Default Re: What kind of damage could the balancing shafts being off a couple teeth cause? (MordecaiPSI)

Reason i ask is that my engine is being dissassembled rigth now and very closely inspected the whole way down. We are trying to figure out why i blew my hg, why the cyl walls look like they have over 100k miles on them, and why there are so many bits of metal in my magnetic oil drain plug.

Why i think there r metal peices is that the balancer shafts were off like i described before, the pointer didnt line up with the groove. I think this could have caused some sort of detrimental oscilation in the roatating assembly, damaging the bearings of the balancer shafts/maybe even the crank.

This is after 6k miles after it being freashly built. Im angry and I want to know why im paying money to have this engine built again.
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 03:09 AM
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Default Re: What kind of damage could the balancing shafts being off a couple teeth cause? (MordecaiPSI)

Get a proseal, and Alien autosport balance shaft plugs (hondaaddict) and rotate all your bearings in the shaft, get your rotating assembly balanced and forget they even were invented, oh and get the manual h23 tensioner if this is an h22a motor. and a prodrive oilpump...

these are my bottom end safeguards...
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 07:27 AM
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Default Re: What kind of damage could the balancing shafts being off a couple teeth cause? (MordecaiPSI)

I agree.
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 10:59 AM
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Default Re: What kind of damage could the balancing shafts being off a couple teeth cause? (HotWheelz)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HotWheelz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get a proseal, and Alien autosport balance shaft plugs (hondaaddict) and rotate all your bearings in the shaft, get your rotating assembly balanced and forget they even were invented, oh and get the manual h23 tensioner if this is an h22a motor. and a prodrive oilpump...

these are my bottom end safeguards...</TD></TR></TABLE>

You can do that, and while your at it why dont you right my Japs at honda and tell them that you have had an epiphany: THEY R WRONG, BALANCING SHAFTS SERVE NO POINT!
I had my balancing shafts **** up, because of low oil issues, and spent 1300 dollars fixing them. i had a race shop do it and we talked about the elimination of the shafts and the slight incresase in power, blah blah blah. But when it comes down to it, they are there to counter first vibrations from the crank assembly. if they arent there, those first hand vibrations can cause bolts that are drilled in to the block to break half way down the thread and back out! ie: my timing belt tensioner! that led to my timing belt rubbing the cover until i noticed smoke and realiaed the engine bay was on fire! so if you take them out, i hope you are building a twice a month race car!!!!!!! for a daily driver, it is going to screw you in the long run!
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 11:21 AM
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Default Re: What kind of damage could the balancing shafts being off a couple teeth cause? (Tomithicus)

BAck to the original question at hand. The metal shavings were copper. At this point it doesnt seem to be from the crank bearings. I think its from the balance shaft bearings form them being off. Could that cause this kind of damage?
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 11:30 AM
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Default Re: What kind of damage could the balancing shafts being off a couple teeth cause? (MordecaiPSI)

Since you have metal in your oiling system, you will have to disassemble the block completely. You will find out for sure then...
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 11:33 PM
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Default Re: What kind of damage could the balancing shafts being off a couple teeth cause? (2point6)

copper shavings are from bearings.You gotta disaasemble the block and see what really happened.
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 08:41 AM
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Yep. This is being done now.
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