Has Ne One Heard nething bout ground control coilovesr i dont know if i shoudl get thoses are some neuspeed race springs

 

Ground Control makes possibly the best spring kit you can get for racing. You can choose any rate you like. Choose wisely.

 

the ground control coilovers?

 

yeah, the ground controls you have the option to choose what spring rates you want....

H&R race is nice, but can't raise it up if it's too low for you..

but remember, your springs are only as good as your shocks..

 

Quote:but remember, your springs are only as good as your shocks..

So true.

 

I have Neuspeed springs, 2.25f & 2.0r, I wish I wouldn't of got them. They are a decent ride, but Ground Control's are a much firmer ride w/ adjustability. They are both good, but I am going to get some Ground Contro's.

 

I heard GC weren't that good. Is this true????

 

No this is not true. I'd say GC is one of the best in in it's class. You can call them up, and let them know how you want your ride to be, and they will give you the spring rates to match that.
The only thing to beat it, are true coilovers.

 

I got a set of GC Coilovers for my '91 Si a couple of months or so ago to replace some no-name "sport springs" that were on my car when i bought it.

They've got a really intelligent, simple adjustable spring perch. And all of the springs (at least for the "limited edition") are Eibach's...

It handles so much better, and if it's done right (i.e. if your bump stops get cut down like they are supposed to etc.) it rides much better also.

Plus, the set i got was only like $320 w/shipping, and it came with somewhat understandable installation instructions (although i would have been lost without my chilton's manual).

I support them 100%...

 

ive got GC with tokico 5-way and i love them..

 

If you raised your car back up to stock ride height, would the coilovers take away from the suspension travel, or would it be the same as with stock springs? I've been having a hard time finding springs that lower the amount that I feel would be asthetically pleasing, and even more, I want something that is functional and where I won't be bottoming out all the time. I'm figuring about an inch of lowering will be good for me if I decide to lower at all.

Simply put, do you loose travel at a given height with coilovers compared to springs?

 

ummm... when you look at the coilover itself the spring is shorter than a stock spring, so theoretically... yes, the travel would be shorter with the coilovers than a stock spring... but (and someone correct me if i'm wrong) most of the time, when you "bottom out" it has more to do with running out of room on the strut than the amount of travel that you've actually got on the spring itself. And even though the springs on the coilover are shorter, they are stiffer, so they will not compress all the way as easily.
I don't think that you would have much of a problem if you just lowered you're car an inch or so with the GC's... i don't really have a problem with mine and it's lowered at least 2.5 in the front. But like i said earlier... CUT YOUR BUMPSTOPS!!! Because you will be "bottoming out" all the time if you don't... and again, it's because they take up so much room on the strut rod.
That's all i got...

 

i have gc on my kkaaaa and i like 'em. id rather have coilovers just for the vetter adjustability. i also have the gc shock mounts, so i have good travel but i need a spring compressor to raise the car some. if i had real coilovers, id have the wrenches to turn the collars. thats my only gripe with the gc's adjustability.

-spenc

 

hmm, needing a spring compressor is something I hadn't thought about before. How high can you go before you need the compressor, or does it really vary upon many factors?

jchxcrx, the bump stop type of bottoming out is what I was talking about. Basically, what I was wondering is under what conditions are you limited by the spring binding instead of the shock bottoming out? Are these realistic conditions or will I probably bottom out on the shock first?

 

I think that i had my GC's all the way to the top (highest) at one point, and i never used a spring compressor.
And yes, you will definately run out of room on your strut before you have the spring fully compressed... unless you've got some kind of crazy strut.

But, these are just things that come with having an aftermarket performance suspension setup... there will be compromises. And you've got to be willing to accept these and recognize and appreciate what you've gained by doing so.
If i've gotta go slow through a certain section of street, or go the long way through a parking lot to dodge a speed bump or two... so be it. I compensate for that by being able to make up in the corners what i lack off the line, any day of the week... and that's because that's where my priorities are. But if i'm gonna get my feathers ruffled over some extra ride stiffness, and not enjoy the benefits that come with it, then it's not worth me spending money on.
You've just got to decide what's good for you...

 

with the rideheight most people set there cars, ull hit the upper a arm to the fender before u coilbind. have to use a spring compressor to go back up because i have extra shock travel. so going together with the gc mounts, i needed to lower the perch or compress the spring to get the new mounts in.

 

Hitting the A-arms on the inside of the fender wells can be a sad deal...
I ran into the problem as well, so keep this in mind:
If you've got a decent set of tires, and you are concerned with handling and being smart about you're suspension geometry, you need to be thinking about getting a camber kit for atleast the front end shortly after installing any kind of lowering kit.
And, if the car is lowered past a certain point, you will need to be willing to modify the upper A-arm, and/or the inner fender well to make clearance.
I had to take a diegrinder to mine, and just barely had enough material to safely work with.