Well i discovered that i blew the clutch out of 00-R and i got quoted for the oem clutch a price of $1200 canadian+machining+labor etc, big fuggin ripoff..

Anyways i ordered up a spoon 9lb flywheel(chromoly), spoon clutch cover, and a spoon three disc clutch... Should this be a good reliable setup for my car?

 

is the three puck clutch too hardcore for street? or should i just get the regular snigle disc spoon?

 

get the single disk - the 3 puck will chatter a lot and is kind of overkill for what you need.

the spoon single disk is essentially the same as an OEM clutch but has a little stiffer springs on the pressure plate - if you want a more performance oriented clutch there's lots of aftermarket choices i.e. ACT or Exedy (p.s. do a search)

the spoon fw is a very nice chromoly piece.

BPR - who has tried both Spoon pieces on his kaa

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Big Phat R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the spoon fw is a very nice chromoly piece.
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the spoon grindwheel is a piece of ****. ask around.

D

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

the spoon grindwheel is a piece of ****. ask around.

D</TD></TR></TABLE>heh, unless j00 by a bling JDM starter as well

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nate B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">heh, unless j00 by a bling JDM starter as well</TD></TR></TABLE>

JDM starter? My ITR was 100% built in Japan and it came with a JDM starter.

I have tried a couple of flywheels JUN, CM, etc... and have never had any grinding problems.

BTW, My Clutchmasters Aluminum Flywheel is for sale&gt; Used for only 5k miles.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=518050

 

A few have had problems with the starter while other have not had problems. I personaly would not risk it.

 

i had the single disc an flywheel in my EG the clutch is over priced stock clutch dont get it,the flywheel only ground every once in a while but i have friends who have had it gridng all the time so its not worth the risk of buying it.

bottom line....clutch
flywheel

EDIT:though the spoon FW does make a fine ash tray right D!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ArmyGreen EG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i had the single disc an flywheel in my EG the clutch is over priced stock clutch dont get it,the flywheel only ground every once in a while but i have friends who have had it gridng all the time so its not worth the risk of buying it.

bottom line....clutch
flywheel

EDIT:though the spoon FW does make a fine ash tray right D!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Damn. The Spoon drivetrain parts are that bad...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITR#132 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

JDM starter? My ITR was 100% built in Japan and it came with a JDM starter.

I have tried a couple of flywheels JUN, CM, etc... and have never had any grinding problems.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The USDM R's made in Japan come with a different starter than the JDM model. Some poeple have had grinding problems with the spoon fw.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dr Pooface &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The USDM R's made in Japan come with a different starter than the JDM model. Some poeple have had grinding problems with the spoon fw.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Are you sure that there is a U.S. specific starter? Why would the U.S. require a different starter?

 

So far as I know, none of the b16a SiR(EG & EK chassis's JDM/USDM) engines have no problem with SPOON fw at all. Someone told me that's because they don't come with Denso starters. Anyway I still can't confirm if any JDM 96/98spec engine owners have problem with that fw or not.

I guess maybe it's a good idea to check if u have a Denso starter before u order SPOON fw for your ITR.

 

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Are you sure that there is a U.S. specific starter? </TD></TR></TABLE>Yes, but I don't know why the US would require a different starter.

 

well **** i already boufght it, might aswell put it in....

 

If it grinds, you should take it out before it ruins your starter. You can replace it with a b16 starter and it will be fine.

 

I have run the Spoon flywheel for 2 years now without an issue.

 

Thanks for the tip...

I think i might just get a b16 starter put in today while its there..

 

I have run it without a problem in my ITR with the stock ITR starter. I think the issues with the starter was solved some time ago

 

Just put it in and see if it grinds.

If it doesn't, great.

If it does, change the starter.

Changing a starter is far from difficult.

 

I have a usdm denso starter mated to a spoon flywheel and full faced clutch for two weeks now, no problems thus far. (knocks on wooden head) I also had a spoon three puck for about a year. I put 20k on the clutch, when it was taken off, it was still in really good shape. I used it for daily driving, spirited canyon driving, and the occasional jack *** stop light battle. I have a friend that put 40k miles on the three puck. It's ok, it's just when you are on a hill and try to take off; you have to really rev it high to get engagement.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lopey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a usdm denso starter mated to a spoon flywheel and full faced clutch for two weeks now, no problems thus far. (knocks on wooden head) I also had a spoon three puck for about a year. I put 20k on the clutch, when it was taken off, it was still in really good shape. I used it for daily driving, spirited canyon driving, and the occasional jack *** stop light battle. I have a friend that put 40k miles on the three puck. It's ok, it's just when you are on a hill and try to take off; you have to really rev it high to get engagement.</TD></TR></TABLE>

why did you take the three puck off? i went with the single organic over the three puck..

 

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the spoon grindwheel is a piece of ****. ask around.

D</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've never had a grinding problem in 3 years. There is nothing wrong with the quality either.

Why do you call it a piece of ****? Are Toda clutches pieces of **** too?




Modified by Big Phat R at 10:24 AM 6/6/2003

 

it was time to get a jdm fd, spoon fw, and lsd baby!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Big Phat R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've never had a grinding problem in 3 years. There is nothing wrong with the quality either.

Why do you call it a piece of ****? Are Toda clutches pieces of **** too?</TD></TR></TABLE>Mine was so bad that about 80% of the time I had to open the door, put the car if first, push the clutch in, roll the car with my foot and pop the clutch to move the flywheel so it would start. It is now an ash tray Now I have the XAct and it works like a champ.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dropspeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have run it without a problem in my ITR with the stock ITR starter. I think the issues with the starter was solved some time ago</TD></TR></TABLE>

It was never fixed to my knowledge. The Civic Si starter and the JDM Integra starter work great with it. With the US ITR starter, some work without a problem and some grind a lot.