what retainers are you using?
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what retainers are you using?
Im curious as to what most guys with lumpy cams are running that see 9k on a daily basis.
portflow?
stock?
skunk2?
ef-1?
xxxx?
im running 15 working portflows, and one broken portflow right now
portflow?
stock?
skunk2?
ef-1?
xxxx?
im running 15 working portflows, and one broken portflow right now
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Re: what retainers are you using? (AllmotorJunkie)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AllmotorJunkie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">TODA valve springs</TD></TR></TABLE>
and what retainers?
and what retainers?
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Re: what retainers are you using? (Bob-DC2)
Portflow retainers-TiN coated and shaved 0.020" at the base to clear the valve guide seals.
Also ran Crowers for about 15k no problems and some Skunk 2 retainers for 8-10k without incident.
Modified by b19coupe at 11:40 AM 6/4/2003
Also ran Crowers for about 15k no problems and some Skunk 2 retainers for 8-10k without incident.
Modified by b19coupe at 11:40 AM 6/4/2003
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EF-1...heh, they were cheap.
In my book, Titanium is Titanium...the retainer is only gonna break from outside stimulus (Coil Bind, etc). So it really doesn't matter what you run...If these fackers wear out, I can replace them with the loose change in my pocket.
Suprdave
In my book, Titanium is Titanium...the retainer is only gonna break from outside stimulus (Coil Bind, etc). So it really doesn't matter what you run...If these fackers wear out, I can replace them with the loose change in my pocket.
Suprdave
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Re: (Suprdave)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Suprdave »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">EF-1...heh, they were cheap.
In my book, Titanium is Titanium...the retainer is only gonna break from outside stimulus (Coil Bind, etc). So it really doesn't matter what you run...If these fackers wear out, I can replace them with the loose change in my pocket.</TD></TR></TABLE>
do you jb weld some niclkels to the back of quarters and dremel out a center hole?
and not all titanium is created equal, there are differences
that like saying to an audiophile, that all 1" dome tweaters are the same as every 1" dome tweater.
In my book, Titanium is Titanium...the retainer is only gonna break from outside stimulus (Coil Bind, etc). So it really doesn't matter what you run...If these fackers wear out, I can replace them with the loose change in my pocket.</TD></TR></TABLE>
do you jb weld some niclkels to the back of quarters and dremel out a center hole?
and not all titanium is created equal, there are differences
that like saying to an audiophile, that all 1" dome tweaters are the same as every 1" dome tweater.
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Re: (Bob-DC2)
Portflow Ti retainers, cryogenically treated, 40,000 miles I think...12,000 miles with TODA valve springs and TODA spec B cams, and 28,000 miles on stock itr valve springs and stock itr cams.
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Re: what retainers are you using? (Bob-DC2)
Im running stock b16a2 retainers with skunk2 springs and stage 1 cams, have had no probs yet, and occasionally it will hit 9000rpm but usually i only take it to 8500-8700. Most people on here seem to run Crower retainers, the only thing that I have been noticing is that the titanium retainers tend to wear thin and snap due to daily driving, but who know, for just as many people that have problems there are an equal number of people that have no problems what-so-ever.
One guy on here actually took his titainium retainer and had them coated to harden them and to try to keep them from wearing thin.
One guy on here actually took his titainium retainer and had them coated to harden them and to try to keep them from wearing thin.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bob-DC2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
do you jb weld some niclkels to the back of quarters and dremel out a center hole?
and not all titanium is created equal, there are differences
that like saying to an audiophile, that all 1" dome tweaters are the same as every 1" dome tweater. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I meant that they are cheap enough that I can replace them every 10k miles and not care. Have you ever seen a Titanium Retainer split\break without an outside stimulus? You can't compare a retainer to a 1" Tweeter...Speakers are made of different materials which give better or worse sound quality.
Suprdave
EDIT: I know Titanium can gall, I'm talking about a full thickness Ti Retainer breaking.
do you jb weld some niclkels to the back of quarters and dremel out a center hole?
and not all titanium is created equal, there are differences
that like saying to an audiophile, that all 1" dome tweaters are the same as every 1" dome tweater. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I meant that they are cheap enough that I can replace them every 10k miles and not care. Have you ever seen a Titanium Retainer split\break without an outside stimulus? You can't compare a retainer to a 1" Tweeter...Speakers are made of different materials which give better or worse sound quality.
Suprdave
EDIT: I know Titanium can gall, I'm talking about a full thickness Ti Retainer breaking.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Portflow Ti retainers, cryogenically treated</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm interested to learn about what the cryogenic treatment did for your retainers. Did it increase the rockwell rating or ? I thought that a cryogenic treatmeant was good against heat treatment, but not advised for retainers, that it would make them more brittle, etc.
I went with skunk2 retainers, nitride coated by http://www.brycoat.com but I have yet to install them. I'm slow.
I'm interested to learn about what the cryogenic treatment did for your retainers. Did it increase the rockwell rating or ? I thought that a cryogenic treatmeant was good against heat treatment, but not advised for retainers, that it would make them more brittle, etc.
I went with skunk2 retainers, nitride coated by http://www.brycoat.com but I have yet to install them. I'm slow.
