hey does anyone know what front upper strut bar will work on a crx w/ a b20 motor? thanks.

 

bump

 

any of them really, i prefer neuspeed tho

 

so the intake manifold will not be too high for even a neuspeed?

 

what mounts are you using?

 

Upper bar does not do anything really. I would be more worried about a lower one, IMO.

Above all do not do tie bars, waste of money.

 

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Above all do not do tie bars, waste of money.</TD></TR></TABLE>

not if your actually using them on a track, if you are a drag racer then there is no need but if you autocross or road race, they actually do quite a bit to help stiffen the chassis.

 

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The chassis is the frame of the car, the tie bars attach to the LCA, how is this the chassis

Then what is the purpose for strut bars and sway bars. You get a stiffer car if you put front and rear sway bars and the bigger diameter the better. Tie bars might do something if you have the above first. I just do not like them.

If you have some information on why they help you, please explain to me because I have not found anything good about them.

Tie bars make the car bounce.


Modified by FURBALL B-16 at 1:27 PM 6/4/2003

 

tie bars and strut bars are two totally different things there buddy, tie bars go underneith and strut bars are up top. yes for the most part having front and rear lower SWAY bars help out alot, but what about the top of your suspenion, that still flexes right? the thing that the STRUT bar does is it keeps the suspension from moving an unwanted amount do to EXTREME driving, like i said if you do autocross/road race you will know what i am talking about, if you are a drag racer, then you will have no clue what i am talking about. road race/autocross you are actually turning your car which puts more stress on it. when you drag race you only drive in a straight line so there is no real stress on the suspension itself, ya there is when you launch but thats about it, there is more stress on the driveshafts than anything.

edit: and also we are getting OT from the guys question so ya thats all im gunna say, just pm me or make a thread in the road race/autocross forum if you are not happy with my answer

 

i was told strut bars help the strut towers from flexing during turns ....... thats what i was told.

 

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I know this, what did I say to make you think different.

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I run with NASA

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by matt j &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but what about the top of your suspenion, that still flexes right? the thing that the STRUT bar does is it keeps the suspension from moving an unwanted amount do to EXTREME driving, </TD></TR></TABLE>

What are you talking about, My comments were for the tie bar itself, you may have misunderstood me.

 

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I know this, what did I say to make you think different.

I run with NASA

What are you talking about, My comments were for the tie bar itself, you may have misunderstood me.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Then what is the purpose for strut bars and sway bars. You get a stiffer car if you put front and rear sway bars and the bigger diameter the better. They might do something if you have the above first. I just do not like them. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Strut bars connect to the top and tie bars the lower mounting points of the suspension and connect them in many different configurations. Which one any paticular person needs or likes is dependent on car use, set up, personal prefrence or price. Me I personally like the Nuespeed one for upper. I have not tested or ran with lowers yet. The chasis has a lot of flex in them by desing what this does by connecting the two points together with a rigid conection it takes a lot of that flex out.(Keeps the towers from flexing in and out when cornering). Same for the lower tie bars. I noticed and immediate difference on mine after installation of the upper. Not a big drastic change but a slight one that I noticed on turn in with the car. The front end felt more solid and stable.

Sway bars(or Anti-sway/anti-roll bars) do not give you a stiffer car. They connect the lower control arms together via a torsion type spring set up to help lessen body roll during turning by helping the car remain flatter through turns and helping the suspension share the load across and work together more in a turn. They may give you a “feel” of a stiffer car but they have not stiffened anything up.

Also the bigger the better is not always true. You need to match them to car set up and driving style. If you are running 700-900 lb springs in the rear a large diamater sway bar might be a bit too much.

 

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that about sums it up

 

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Strut bars connect to the top and tie bars the lower mounting points of the suspension and connect them in many different configurations. </TD></TR></TABLE>

This comment was not asking it was stating. Look at above post. How many configurations do you need, they all mount to same spots, Companies change they way they look because the car changes.

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The chassis has a lot of flex in them by design what this does by connecting the two points together with a rigid connection it takes a lot of that flex out.(Keeps the towers from flexing in and out when cornering).
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This topic has nothing to do with chassis, it has to do with STRUT BARS and they connect the suspension together. SWAY BARS & TIE BARS also connect the suspension parts together, making it move as one which is good in corners instead of flexing.

I still do not like tie bars.



Modified by FURBALL B-16 at 1:41 PM 6/4/2003

 

completely highjacked the threat IMO.
Neuspeed should fit with the B series swaps, as i was told, witnessed and heard.
the discussion on whether upper strut bars help is moot at this particular moment.
it has been brought up a many times and difference of opinion remain. i had just recently re-installed mine and the difference was extremely noticeable.
Stan

 

Neuspeed on a B Series TURBO even. Dig that.

 

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Do you know where I can find a wire or maybe a hose

 

WOW, last time I seen that many vacuum hoses, it was on the early 80's and late 70's model cars. But non the less, that's nice.

On anther note: will the strut bar help get rid of that rubber band feeling in the steering at higher speeds?

 

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/\ /\ you don't have any room for the FIAMM dual air horns though!?!
best quick pic i could find

 

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/\ /\ you don't have any room for the FIAMM dual air horns though!?!
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Sure he does, gut the wheel wells. hahaha

 

no man! those airhorns go on the roof, i thought you knew. its gonna be the newest thing for this summer along with the kc lights too