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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 07:12 PM
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Default b16B to ITR?

ive hear the b16b is just a destroked b18c5 and all you need to do is replace it with a b18 crank..which b18 crank do I need??c1?c5??thanks alot
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 08:06 PM
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either one or an ls crank as long as you use coresponding rods.
b16b rods will be too long
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 07:01 PM
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nope. they are two separate things.

look at this site: http://www.c-speedracing.com

go to the how to, then the compression calculator...you'll see even with a stock headgasket that the cr comes quite high. not bad high, but you'll need custom rods to run the c5 crank. otherwise you'll have some clearance issues.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 07:56 PM
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Default Re: b16B to ITR? (B16b2b)

an ls crank and gsr\iTR is different...

the b16b is a destroked b18c motor... replace the cank and rods with b18c's and you'll have a 1.8 with the 1.6 stamp
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 11:18 PM
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ok this is new to me.

so let me ask u guys a few questions.

so b16a, ctr pistons, ctr cams, new valvetrain. (what i plan to get)

then i would buy a b18c crank, and b18c rods? and i will now have a 1.8L?

what about compression? timing? do i need a new ecu?

i am very interested. will all this work?
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 11:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugensport9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok this is new to me.

so let me ask u guys a few questions.

so b16a, ctr pistons, ctr cams, new valvetrain. (what i plan to get)

then i would buy a b18c crank, and b18c rods? and i will now have a 1.8L?

what about compression? timing? do i need a new ecu?

i am very interested. will all this work?
</TD></TR></TABLE>

gus, you are a n00b... displacement is related to bore, but not directly.

stroking is another way to get displacement. Heard of a stroker kit? Basically you gain displacement with a crank that has a larger distance frlom the center to where the rods mount. I'll explain all of this to you in person, much easier.

peace,
ryan
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 11:49 PM
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Default Re: b16B to ITR? (mugensport9)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugensport9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok this is new to me.

so let me ask u guys a few questions.

so b16a, ctr pistons, ctr cams, new valvetrain. (what i plan to get)

then i would buy a b18c crank, and b18c rods? and i will now have a 1.8L?

what about compression? timing? do i need a new ecu?

i am very interested. will all this work?
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no they are talking about a b16b. you have a b16a. they have diffrent deck heights.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 11:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by evilxkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

no they are talking about a b16b. you have a b16a. they have diffrent deck heights.</TD></TR></TABLE>

would it make a difference in my set up? maybe not 1.8L but still would i get some more displacment?

and would all that work together?
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 12:13 AM
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Default Re: b16B to ITR? (mugensport9)

your pistons would hit your head. you can use a b17 craink and rods to make it a 1.7ltr though.
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 07:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DOHCtorTHRUST &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">an ls crank and gsr\iTR is different...

the b16b is a destroked b18c motor... replace the cank and rods with b18c's and you'll have a 1.8 with the 1.6 stamp</TD></TR></TABLE>

ls crank is different but you can use it in a b16b as long as you use ls rods.
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 09:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tegasaurus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

gus, you are a n00b... displacement is related to bore, but not directly.
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I hope you do a better job explaining it in person than here. Bore size not directly related to displacement??? HAHAHA! Who is the n00b now?

Displacement = Bore^2/4 * Stroke * Pi * Number of Cylinders you have

This is in mm^3. Divide by 1000 to get cc's.

This is math, not voodoo magic.
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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 11:25 PM
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Search.... this topic is covered like 3 times a week.

B16b= same deck height as b18a/b/c. Which means technically you can use a B18C crank/rods to make a 1.8 or a b18a/b crank/rods to make a 1.8.

B16a= 7mm (I believe)shorter deck height than others. Same as B17 which means you can use a b17 crank and rods in a B16a.

Bore is related to displacement, so is stroke.

Heres a little pic I threw together for one of the threads I posted on a while back since both blocks were outta my car.

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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 09:13 AM
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Default Re: b16B to ITR? (evilxkid)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by evilxkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your pistons would hit your head. you can use a b17 craink and rods to make it a 1.7ltr though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just crank and rods? Everything else left alone?

.... sounds like a good compromise to me, shouldn't even be too expensive, hmmmm....
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