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Tail light / cluster fuse keeps blowing. Any ideas?

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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 04:44 AM
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Default Tail light / cluster fuse keeps blowing. Any ideas?

This is the 2nd time this fuse has blown. It's under the dash and I believe it's a 10amp fuse. It doesn't blow immediately but it's happened about twice in the last 2-3 weeks.

I'm thinking maybe 2 wires could be touching where they are spliced for the GSR cluster

Question: Could it be that I have a wire in the wrong slot? Everything on the cluster works, except the seat belt reminder light. I don't know why it does not work. I don't really need the warning since I put my seatbelt on 100% of the time anyhow.

It's a GSR cluster in a 93 Cx.....

PS <> It sucked having to drive home last night with the flashers on
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 04:57 AM
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Default Re: Tail light / cluster fuse keeps blowing. Any ideas? (Hybrid93Hatch)

Did it happen immediately following your cluster swap?

Check each socket in the tal end of the car at the bulbs for corrosion.

I had my car doing weird **** where the parking lights in the rear were on, but when I hit the brakes they'd all shut off and no lights would be on at all in the *** end of my car.

Turned out to be a corroded socket that was shorting **** out.
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 08:39 AM
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mine did the same thing, turns out when i installed cd player i forgot to tape off the orange illumination wire that i didnt use. it was grounding when i hit big bumps
yours sounds like a short too, probably to do w/ the cluster since it was the last thing installed
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 09:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by teal_dx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">mine did the same thing, turns out when i installed cd player i forgot to tape off the orange illumination wire that i didnt use. it was grounding when i hit big bumps
yours sounds like a short too, probably to do w/ the cluster since it was the last thing installed</TD></TR></TABLE>

This has[/i] to be the problem. Never had this problem with the Cx cluster. I bet one of the wires is touching like you said.

Guess I'm pulling the cluster in a few
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 04:59 PM
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Default Re: Tail light / cluster fuse keeps blowing. Any ideas? (Hybrid93Hatch)

Ok, I just pulled the cluster to look at the wiring. I didn't see any wires touching and once I double checked, I installed a new fuse. With the wire harnesses not pushed back and the gauge cluster not installed I hit the light switch. **** popped again as the switch turned on

It was just after 8pm when I started looking at it (just got home from work) so I didn't have much sun light. I need to go in early tomm to work, so it may have to wait a day or two now.

QUESTION: With the fuse removed (taillight, license plate, dash gauges) there is NO power going to any of that, right? I just am concerned if it starts raining and I have to turn on the headlight switch. There is know chance that a fire could start or ruin my cluster because no power is going pass the blown fuse, right????? Just want to make sure I am understanding this. Thanks!
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 04:41 AM
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I've been thinking about the problem. If it's the fuse for the gauge cluster lights that keep blowing then it's probably the dimmer wire. I believe there are 2 or 3 power and ground wires in the cluster wiring. Does the dimmer or gauge cluster light have a power / ground of it's own? All the gauges work fine. Just the lights in the cluster and on the dash. Even the Kenwood cd player lights up still. Any thoughts on what wires are on the line for the (gauge, taillight, and dash lights) fuse??

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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 04:17 AM
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Default Re: Tail light / cluster fuse keeps blowing. Any ideas? (Hybrid93Hatch)

TRIED SOMETHING ELSE

Installed a new fuse and removed the GSR cluster and the 2 harnesses. All that was left were the civic wires and the SRS plug. The fuse immediatly popped once the parking lights were turned on. I took a good look at the 2 plugs where the wires for the civic are all connected. I don't see any of the wires touching
Is there a chance that when I pushed the wires back to place the gauge cluster in place that a wire or 2 got split open and are touching? I really don't see how this could happen when there is thick loom around the wires.

Thanks for any ideas on this.

No taillights
No license plate lights
No dash lights
No parking lights
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Old Jun 21, 2003 | 01:46 PM
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Dude, I'm having the same problem. Started this morning outta nowhere. When I left my girlfriends house, I flipped on the running lights and could see they were working cause I could see the reflection in her car in front of mine. I stopped for gas 3 miles later and the running lights/tail lights/cluster were out. Every time I replace the fuse, it blows.

I just spent 6 hours checking every connection and runnning all the tests that my Helms gives. The switch has continuity at every socket location. There is 12.4 volts of power at the switch when I turn the running lights on. 12.1 volts when I flip on the headlights. All components, including the cluster, are stock and have never given me any trouble.

I guess I'll go check the bulb sockets for corrosion. Any other ideas are welcome. I will be unable to drive at night or in the rain until I find a solution HELP!
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Old Jun 21, 2003 | 02:14 PM
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did you put new bulbs in at all in the parking lights or tailights recently?
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Old Jun 21, 2003 | 04:39 PM
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I ended up pulling the civic wires out of the plastic holder and inserting them firmly into the holes. This solved the problem and my lights all work fine now

Even though I took close-up pics of the wires at the connections and zoomed in really really close and could not see any touching. It worked when I rewired, so I am now.
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 04:55 AM
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Which plastic holder Hybrid? Did the GSR cluster end up being the problem?

NO new bulbs Hatchy. I've now removed every bulb in the car, including the lisence plate bulbs. No corrosion, water, or anything else in any of the sockets.

The only suspicious thing I found was .02-.03 Ohms of resistance in the at ALL 4 of the plugs in the tailgate. The is both lisence plate bulbs and both tail light bulbs. All other connections showed. 0.00 ohms of resistance. Is that a clue? Maybe the action of the tailgate has pinched a wire? I hate to cut the bundles open unless I'm VERY sure that's the problem.

I'm up over 15 hours on this project now. If I don't find the solution today, looks like I'm going to have to take it to a dealer. I just don't understand electrics enough to solve this I guess.
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 05:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94CivicSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Which plastic holder Hybrid? Did the GSR cluster end up being the problem?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The problem was the wiring at the cluster on the civic wires that connected to the GSR harnesses:



One of those wires must of been touching. There is another plug that only has 9 slots as well.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">NO new bulbs Hatchy. I've now removed every bulb in the car, including the lisence plate bulbs. No corrosion, water, or anything else in any of the sockets.

The only suspicious thing I found was .02-.03 Ohms of resistance in the at ALL 4 of the plugs in the tailgate. The is both lisence plate bulbs and both tail light bulbs. All other connections showed. 0.00 ohms of resistance. Is that a clue? Maybe the action of the tailgate has pinched a wire? I hate to cut the bundles open unless I'm VERY sure that's the problem.

I'm up over 15 hours on this project now. If I don't find the solution today, looks like I'm going to have to take it to a dealer. I just don't understand electrics enough to solve this I guess. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Do you mean volts instead of ohms? My father just got through with a very similar problem in the rear tails as well including the license plate lights and gauge cluster lights. Ended up being the power wire under the dash for the tails / etc. was almost completely cut when I had my alarm installed. Must of been just a couple strands of wire for the past year and just the other week the connection snapped causing all the lights in the rear to stop working. My father spliced the wire back and now everything is

If you had an alarm installed or any electrical work done under the dash this could be the problem. Hope this helps!
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 05:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had my car doing weird **** where the parking lights in the rear were on, but when I hit the brakes they'd all shut off and no lights would be on at all in the *** end of my car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

my brother had a similar problem to this, and one like the original post.

basicly, he had a splice that was grounding itself out. if you have spliced wires, PLEASE solder them aswell as shrink wrap them. spliced wires with electrical tape wrapping is so shitty..
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 06:36 AM
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check th ground wire coming out of your harnes thats grounded on the firewall behind the dash. mine was loose and i was popping that exact same fuse
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Old Jun 23, 2003 | 05:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid93Hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Do you mean volts instead of ohms?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, since there's no power getting beyond the fuse panel, I can't measure voltage on those wires. All I can measure is resistance.

I'm going to check that ground under the dash, double check my stereo connections and if that fails, pull out the cluster and see what I can find. Thanks for all the suggestions.
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