to all heads with 5th gen accords with coilovers on
i just got some arospeed coilovers for my 94 accord lx, i was goign to have my dads good friend who owns a shop put them on for me but he told me i should consider a camber kit.....ive talked to alot of people who dont run camber kits but they are also wearing out there tires. I only wanted to drop my car about 2 inches max, so my question is for all you out there running coilovers how low did you lower and do you have a camber kit........im not sure what camber kit to get...if i do get one.
dont waste you money on the camber kit, dont get me work, that thing works but it will alter other pieces in your suspension anyway.
2 inch is not alot of accord, your should be fine.
when you got your spring/coilover on, let it settle for two week and make sure you bring it to tires place and do an alignment, let them know your **** is lowered and have them correct the "toe" and 'camber" setting as close as 0 as possilble.
little bit of negative camber help you turn.
just make sure you wif3 3wap your accord every 4-5 k miles.
2 inch is not alot of accord, your should be fine.
when you got your spring/coilover on, let it settle for two week and make sure you bring it to tires place and do an alignment, let them know your **** is lowered and have them correct the "toe" and 'camber" setting as close as 0 as possilble.
little bit of negative camber help you turn.
just make sure you wif3 3wap your accord every 4-5 k miles.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iam7head »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont waste you money on the camber kit, dont get me work, that thing works but it will alter other pieces in your suspension anyway.
2 inch is not alot of accord, your should be fine.
when you got your spring/coilover on, let it settle for two week and make sure you bring it to tires place and do an alignment, let them know your **** is lowered and have them correct the "toe" and 'camber" setting as close as 0 as possilble.
little bit of negative camber help you turn.
just make sure you wif3 3wap your accord every 4-5 k miles.
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what the hell?????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????
anyway......
i have the eibach prokit 1.2" drop on my 5th gen wagon. Turns out, the springs settled about 3 inches in the end. it's not a problem for me because the car handles very well and the susp is tight. as for the camber kit...... you really must have one. they DO work. there is NO ADJUSTMENT for camber on the accords.... just an adjustment for the toe. therefore, any modification you make to the suspension (ie: dropping it) will alter the camber and wear out your tires. you can pick up a camber kit for about 200 beans, a biut steep in the beginning but over time it will be worth it because you will kill your tires and tires as we all know are expensive. buy the camber kit and happy lowering.
2 inch is not alot of accord, your should be fine.
when you got your spring/coilover on, let it settle for two week and make sure you bring it to tires place and do an alignment, let them know your **** is lowered and have them correct the "toe" and 'camber" setting as close as 0 as possilble.
little bit of negative camber help you turn.
just make sure you wif3 3wap your accord every 4-5 k miles.
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what the hell?????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????
anyway......
i have the eibach prokit 1.2" drop on my 5th gen wagon. Turns out, the springs settled about 3 inches in the end. it's not a problem for me because the car handles very well and the susp is tight. as for the camber kit...... you really must have one. they DO work. there is NO ADJUSTMENT for camber on the accords.... just an adjustment for the toe. therefore, any modification you make to the suspension (ie: dropping it) will alter the camber and wear out your tires. you can pick up a camber kit for about 200 beans, a biut steep in the beginning but over time it will be worth it because you will kill your tires and tires as we all know are expensive. buy the camber kit and happy lowering.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CD8 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">everyone has their own opinions...
i dont run camber kits and i dont like em.
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same here, dont like em and cant run one cos of the tyre width and drop
i dont run camber kits and i dont like em.
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same here, dont like em and cant run one cos of the tyre width and drop
Yes, you do need one.
The simplest way is to take your car to to an alignment shop after it has been lowered. (You are going to have to go there anyway since when you touch the suspension by putting in new struts, your cars alignment is going to be out of wack.)
The stuff you read is false, you cannot properly align your car by 'eyeballing it' if you could, they wouldnt use lasers at the alignment shop. My car looked aligned, but once looking at the machine, it was really bad.
Even if the car is off by .4 degrees, you are going to notice it in the long run. My car was off this much, and what do you know, I needed new tires because they were worn 2 times as much on the inside as the out. And thats WITH rotation.
Its a fact of the matter, if your car is daily driven, you need a kit or be prepared to buy new tires more often then you should. Its a good investment, and simple to install.
Camber isnt adjustable on accords, therefore when you drop the center of gravity, your camber is going to the inside of the tires..more pressure on the inside of the tires = more wear.
Suck it up and buy one, theres no way around it if the alignment shop cant fix your camber. The guys that say that they dont have one, are ones that dont drive their cars 4000+ miles a month.
Nate.
The simplest way is to take your car to to an alignment shop after it has been lowered. (You are going to have to go there anyway since when you touch the suspension by putting in new struts, your cars alignment is going to be out of wack.)
The stuff you read is false, you cannot properly align your car by 'eyeballing it' if you could, they wouldnt use lasers at the alignment shop. My car looked aligned, but once looking at the machine, it was really bad.
Even if the car is off by .4 degrees, you are going to notice it in the long run. My car was off this much, and what do you know, I needed new tires because they were worn 2 times as much on the inside as the out. And thats WITH rotation.
Its a fact of the matter, if your car is daily driven, you need a kit or be prepared to buy new tires more often then you should. Its a good investment, and simple to install.
Camber isnt adjustable on accords, therefore when you drop the center of gravity, your camber is going to the inside of the tires..more pressure on the inside of the tires = more wear.
Suck it up and buy one, theres no way around it if the alignment shop cant fix your camber. The guys that say that they dont have one, are ones that dont drive their cars 4000+ miles a month.
Nate.
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Christ, no-one in Australia drives 4000 miles a month!!
Though mine is daily driven (1000-1500 miles a month)...i just cant use a camber kit without too many other issues. Tyre wear i can live with, even though it is still not a problem so far (i have noticed wear on the front, but it is more from rubbing than camber...the rears are perfect after 6-7 months)
Though mine is daily driven (1000-1500 miles a month)...i just cant use a camber kit without too many other issues. Tyre wear i can live with, even though it is still not a problem so far (i have noticed wear on the front, but it is more from rubbing than camber...the rears are perfect after 6-7 months)
hmmm....never heard of prokit's settling down to a 3 inch drop??
But, from personal experience I didnt have a camber kit when I first got new wheels, and the tires were gone within 8 months....After investing in a camber kit an new tires, this time it has lasted me about 2 years before the tires wore out.
But, from personal experience I didnt have a camber kit when I first got new wheels, and the tires were gone within 8 months....After investing in a camber kit an new tires, this time it has lasted me about 2 years before the tires wore out.
everyone's case is going to be different. there is no way to know right off the bat before you lower a car if you will need a kit or not - my camber was off -2.7 and -2.5 in the rear. i went through a set of tires in a month
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by one clean ride »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmmm....never heard of prokit's settling down to a 3 inch drop??
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Me either for eibach pro-kits. Perhaps Neuspeed Race.....
Maybe reversed the front and rears? It happens....(friend did it in a civic)...
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Me either for eibach pro-kits. Perhaps Neuspeed Race.....
Maybe reversed the front and rears? It happens....(friend did it in a civic)...
Bahahaha, pro-kit settling 3 inches! HAhaAH where do these guys come from? Get the front camber kit, but on the back I recommend using washers and a longer bolt if possible. The rear camber kits have been known to cause MAJOR problems including breaking your control arm, and such. The washers work just fine. Good luck.
Can someone explain the washer trick for the rear suspension to me? If possible pics would be appreciated. I've been trying to figure out which bolt to add the washer too.
Nevermind did a search and found pics.
Modified by roydogg at 12:48 AM 6/3/2003
Nevermind did a search and found pics.
Modified by roydogg at 12:48 AM 6/3/2003
if i were you i would do the H&R race spring they look good on accords
nice and low. if your not in to turns and track i would say get a camber kit
your tires will last longer. the thing about coil overs (ghetto sleves) they are not compressed wich means they are going bounce around and make noise and if your strughts dont have dampers it's going to ride like ****.
not to metion the lower you go the less stroke your strught has and will bottom out and blow your strught. and a nother thing about those ghetto
coil overs they never set right. if your going to do a coil over buy the right kind like tien or tenabe. yes they are expensive but it beats doing it twice.
the cheepest way would be koni yellows and h&r's. with the yellows
you can adjust the height 3 ways. things are cheep for a reason. insted of
buying quanity buy quality,
later
nice and low. if your not in to turns and track i would say get a camber kit
your tires will last longer. the thing about coil overs (ghetto sleves) they are not compressed wich means they are going bounce around and make noise and if your strughts dont have dampers it's going to ride like ****.
not to metion the lower you go the less stroke your strught has and will bottom out and blow your strught. and a nother thing about those ghetto
coil overs they never set right. if your going to do a coil over buy the right kind like tien or tenabe. yes they are expensive but it beats doing it twice.
the cheepest way would be koni yellows and h&r's. with the yellows
you can adjust the height 3 ways. things are cheep for a reason. insted of
buying quanity buy quality,
later
Unless you got deep pockets I'd get a camber kit, as for those arospeed coilovers I had a set on my 94 ex on stock struts and it's one bumpy ride I'd suggest you get a real coilover system instead of those arospeeds
thanks for all the info guys, ive heard alot of stuff about coilovers making a very rough ride so i was a little nervous about that, i also heard that they will destroy whatever struts you have on there in no time so you should be ready to get better ones. I guess i will look into h & r springs and new struts.........thanks again for all teh help.
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