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Old May 26, 2003 | 11:04 PM
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Default h22 ek hatch vs gsr ek hatch???

which would be the fastest??i am thinking h22, but could some people with h22ek' and gsr ek's,splease post up 1/4mile times?? thnx
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Old May 27, 2003 | 05:21 AM
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I would say that the h22 hatch would most likely be faster off the line, but the GSR hatch would probably catch it on the top end.

My best time in my 99 hatch w/h22 was only 14.6@94 (on street tires) I mis-shifted, but it was still my best run of the night...

If you were thinking about swapping the H22 into a civic then I would probably reccomend the GSR motor, but only if your getting a good deal on it. Otherwise I wold take the h22, but I wanted mine as a daily driver and the extra vibration that the hard mounts cause bothers me. You could use oem mounts to put a gsr motor in a civic, and it would be good as factory

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Old May 27, 2003 | 05:40 AM
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It depends on a lot of factors besides the swap itself: skill level of driver, suspension, wheels/tires, etc.

I have a 92 VX with a 99 B18C1 swap, the motor is completely stock internally. I have the usual bolt-ons, so nothing out of the ordinary. The best time I ran was 13.7@102mph. I let my friend take it down the track once and he ran a 15.4
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Old May 27, 2003 | 05:42 AM
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Like mentioned above, the H22A off the line and the B18C will catch it in the topend. WOW only a 14.6 @ 94?????? Was there MAJOR traction issues? I went 14.6 @ 95.8 in a 94 GS-R with only i/h/e and 135k on the engine and stock susp.
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Old May 27, 2003 | 06:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WOW only a 14.6 @ 94?????? Was there MAJOR traction issues?</TD></TR></TABLE>

As stated above "On street tires", and "Mis-shifted a gear"

Can you grip at the track with street tires?

Edit: My h22 is completely OEM all the way down to the sparkplug wires. Only thing different is the 2.5" exhaust pipe, and short ram intake.

I had an offer to trade my h22 for a b18c1 and let me tell you it is still on my mind. I just dont have the money to buy all the extra little stuff to swap back to a B-series

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Old May 27, 2003 | 07:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SlvrEj6Dx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

As stated above "On street tires", and "Mis-shifted a gear"

Can you grip at the track with street tires?

Edit: My h22 is completely OEM all the way down to the sparkplug wires. Only thing different is the 2.5" exhaust pipe, and short ram intake.

I had an offer to trade my h22 for a b18c1 and let me tell you it is still on my mind. I just dont have the money to buy all the extra little stuff to swap back to a B-series

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oooooook, what are you launching at? And mine was done on Street tirestoo. Isn't that the point of seeing what your car runs? If you run on slicks at the track then go to a street race and someone says so what does it run and you say 14.0 @ 99mph but forget to mention it was on slicks then thats just BS. Your car isn't a 14.0 sec car on the street with street tires so whats the point of running slicks on a street car??????? I'll never understand that! to you and your driving skills!
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Old May 27, 2003 | 09:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oooooook, what are you launching at? And mine was done on Street tirestoo. Isn't that the point of seeing what your car runs? If you run on slicks at the track then go to a street race and someone says so what does it run and you say 14.0 @ 99mph but forget to mention it was on slicks then thats just BS. Your car isn't a 14.0 sec car on the street with street tires so whats the point of running slicks on a street car??????? I'll never understand that! to you and your driving skills!</TD></TR></TABLE>

How many times do I have to say it again???.....I missed a shift on that run goofball. Dont attack me and my driving skills when you run a similar time....yet you have more mods than me

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Old May 27, 2003 | 09:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SlvrEj6Dx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

How many times do I have to say it again???.....I missed a shift on that run goofball. Dont attack me and my driving skills when you run a similar time....yet you have more mods than me

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lol, yeah in a 2667 lb GS-R plus me weighing 180lbs plus over a 1/2 tank of gas and gas weighs 7lbs a gallon,......... you do the math my friend. More mods?????? really?, you had a freaking swap for crying out loud. My engine belonged in my car. Also my car wasn't lowered and I had all season 195/65 Continental tires on the stock rims. Nice drag set up eh?
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Old May 27, 2003 | 10:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol, yeah in a 2667 lb GS-R plus me weighing 180lbs plus over a 1/2 tank of gas and gas weighs 7lbs a gallon,......... you do the math my friend. More mods?????? really?, you had a freaking swap for crying out loud. My engine belonged in my car. Also my car wasn't lowered and I had all season 195/65 Continental tires on the stock rims. Nice drag set up eh?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well then the relevence of anything you have posted is Zero. Cuz the Title of the Thread clearly says GSR EK's Vs. H22 EK.......as in CIVIC....not GSR INTEGRA

So dont think I care how heavy your car is considering that Any of the times that I have run in my hatch were with full interior and A/C. And I weigh 200+ so either way Our cars would have weighed about the same.

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Old May 27, 2003 | 11:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SlvrEj6Dx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Well then the relevence of anything you have posted is Zero. Cuz the Title of the Thread clearly says GSR EK's Vs. H22 EK.......as in CIVIC....not GSR INTEGRA

So dont think I care how heavy your car is considering that Any of the times that I have run in my hatch were with full interior and A/C. And I weigh 200+ so either way Our cars would have weighed about the same.

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The same weight? LMAOROTF!!!!!! The point was your times sucked! I emphasized I had equaled your times in a FULL INTERIOR INTEGRA GS-R,I/H/E,STOCK SUSP,STOCK SUSP., AND WORSE THAN STOCK TIRES! And to add to that I had over 1/2 tank of gas. Your points are MUTE and well....aren't even points! Ignorance sheesh
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Old May 27, 2003 | 11:56 AM
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man STFU Boosted. You're a moron.

As far as b18c catching an h22 on the 'top end'.....I'm going to say from experience that it's not the case.

I'm a CX with over 50 sq feet of Brown Bread, full interior, a/c, and a system with an h22..suffice it to say the setup isn't all that 'light'.

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Old May 27, 2003 | 12:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hot_EH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">man STFU Boosted. You're a moron.

As far as b18c catching an h22 on the 'top end'.....I'm going to say from experience that it's not the case.

I'm a CX with over 50 sq feet of Brown Bread, full interior, a/c, and a system with an h22..suffice it to say the setup isn't all that 'light'.

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cool...so what times do you run?
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Old May 27, 2003 | 02:11 PM
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My friend got a gsr ek hatch and after giving him a ride in my car he wants a h22 now. And for top end if your saying like freeway racing, there is no way a gsr can pull on a h22.
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Old May 27, 2003 | 02:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hot_EH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">man STFU Boosted. You're a moron.

As far as b18c catching an h22 on the 'top end'.....I'm going to say from experience that it's not the case.

I'm a CX with over 50 sq feet of Brown Bread, full interior, a/c, and a system with an h22..suffice it to say the setup isn't all that 'light'.

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uuuummmmmmm NO! you STFU. Change your bloody tampon and mind your own ******* buisness! B18C's do pull H22A's on the topend mod for mod.
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Old May 27, 2003 | 02:22 PM
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changed my tampon yesterday silly....
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Old May 27, 2003 | 02:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GOLDBERG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

cool...so what times do you run? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I've got no clue. I fried my ECU or something, so I won't be able to get it to the track for a while
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Old May 27, 2003 | 02:36 PM
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If anything I thought you would compare a itr swap to an h22 not a GSR.
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Old May 27, 2003 | 03:05 PM
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uuuummmmmmm NO! you STFU. Change your bloody tampon and mind your own ******* buisness! B18C's do pull H22A's on the topend mod for mod. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh ya?

Since when was the last time was someone "not" able to post because you're being a ******* tool. You are bashing my boy SilverEj6 for absolutely no reason, and insulting him personally for driving; trying to corner him into saying he doesn't know how to drive.

Now you're trying to come to a point that no one messes up during driving. Isn't that just cute. I'm sure you are just a Pro-stock 4 second top fueler.

On top of that, making completely immature insults to hot_EH, talking about tampons. You won't get far by making dumbass insults like that. Your post ALSO included false information, which can get you banned. So unless you have prove for a B18C pulling on an H22A mod for mod, I would be happy to see some experience or information on this. Just FYI. So watch your posts.

Your nonsense posting is completely OT and is not needed. I, as well as others would appreciate if you would contribute to what GOLDBERG has originally asked in this thread, otherwise you can get the **** off and move to the next thread for helping someone out.

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Old May 27, 2003 | 04:09 PM
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i'm wondering..how a 14 sec car would pull on a 13 second car?<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlownB18BHB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
uuuummmmmmm NO! you STFU. Change your bloody tampon and mind your own ******* buisness! B18C's do pull H22A's on the topend mod for mod. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old May 27, 2003 | 04:30 PM
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I'm noticing all the **** talkers with the exception of GOLDBERG(he's the one asking the question so go figure how he's talking ****) have H22A civic! Hmmmmmmm a lil bias are we? Poison, you stfu, you're a freaking tool. How the hell is saying a GS-R hatch will pull a h22a hatch false info. When it really comes down to the driver. You idiot stfu.
Say I had my B18C put into a hatch and raced silver whatever the **** his name is, who do you think would win that race? me since it laid down 14.6's in a GS-R, I'd just have to learn over how to harness the power to the ground in a lighter chassis.
My hatch now would more than likely eat all your H22's for breakfast lunch and dinner. What you got to say now and I did contribute to the thread with my very 1st post. Is your pad full poison?
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Old May 27, 2003 | 05:12 PM
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oh??what year /model hatch you got??and whats done to it??also how fast is it
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Old May 27, 2003 | 05:30 PM
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1988 DX HB weighs 1993lbs stock
mods:
B18B OBD 0 conversion
JRSC 10 psi pulley
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DC 4-2-1 header
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310 cc injectors
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Powercore 2 1/4" Cat-back
Skunk2 short shifter
Brembo blanks up front drums in the back
Progress hybrid springs
15" Slipstreams with D.O.T. Drag Radials up front....... if i missed anything oh well, that in itself is enough to hand those H22's there pride back in a swify couple seconds.

gonne tune it when I get a AFC and some time to drive an hour away from where I live.

Edit: or a P28 to run with a Hondata system.
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Old May 27, 2003 | 05:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlownB18BHB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm noticing all the **** talkers with the exception of GOLDBERG(he's the one asking the question so go figure how he's talking ****) have H22A civic! Hmmmmmmm a lil bias are we?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh really? Since when did I EVER mention my car. This discussion is about H22 EK vs B18C EK isn't it? Hmm I wonder. It's not **** talking. It's debating. Get it right dude.


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Poison, you stfu, you're a freaking tool. How the hell is saying a GS-R hatch will pull a h22a hatch false info. When it really comes down to the driver. You idiot stfu.
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Yes, it does come down to the driver. But, BOTH being equal drivers, BOTH having the same exact mods, who is gonna win? Displacement. H22 is the B18 with more displacement, incase you didn't know that.

Of course many other things like gear ratios, how the motor is tuned and such comes into play, BUT, being the same technology, and everything else, there is no way a GSR will pull an H22 in the same car.

The ITR swap is more comparable to the h22 swap. The GSR is out of play by far.

Hmm, and I'm the tool? I still see no proof from the point you are trying to make.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlownB18BHB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Say I had my B18C put into a hatch and raced silver whatever the **** his name is, who do you think would win that race? me since it laid down 14.6's in a GS-R, I'd just have to learn over how to harness the power to the ground in a lighter chassis.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh really? Let's see. He has a COUPE which is slightly heavier, if you have thrown it into a hatch. If you two had the SAME car, him having an h22 swap and you having your Godly GSR swap, provided both of you have the same driving skills and both up and running to par, I GUARENTEE you the h22 will win.

Displacement with the same technology. Did he NOT just say he missed 2nd?

With my 93 EX coupe, I ran 14.4 @ 98 with no traction as well (2.5 60') on ***** street tires AND at 4200 ft elavation. I now have a 92 VX hatch that I know will be 13's easy, especially at sea level. Hell even with the coupe, 98 mph is even 13 second range. You gonna talk **** on that too?

My friend who has a GSR CX hatch, completely gutted best time was a 14.1 @ 94 mph at the same track, and he had drag radials. Kinda funny if you ask me.

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My hatch now would more than likely eat all your H22's for breakfast lunch and dinner. What you got to say now and I did contribute to the thread with my very 1st post. Is your pad full poison? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Whoa! Let's see here. At the top of the thread you said "I'm noticiing all the **** talkers with the exception of GOLDBERG have H22A civic!"

See, what you said in the last quote bars, is what <FONT SIZE="4">I</FONT> like to call <FONT SIZE="4">**** TALKING!</FONT>. What a coinsedence!

I find it more amusing that you STILL have no proof, and now you're claiming you'll eat an H22 civic for lunch and dinner as if you walk all over it. Stop making me laugh.

Is my pad full? Yes, because you just made me laugh my *** off. You also seem to have an obsession with tampons. Were you born on the rag or what?
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Old May 27, 2003 | 06:13 PM
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It's apparent you're a H22A ****! God forbid something happen to the H22A.
You obviously have no clue about a B18C! Yes I said you're a tool, just look how you jumped out and started defending your bathroom break friend.
I started my 1st comment with a question to Siver. He replied in a defensive manner. I was like WTF take a chill pill in my head but he ranted on and on about BS. all i did was ask if there was major traction issues and what his launch rpm was. I was gonn offer some good experienced advised for him, but his Tampon got full all of a sudden.
Your pad is soaked too and you're making me laugh to bro! We'd more than likely have a ball hanging out toghether. Was I born on a rag? No I'm just coming to the realisation that alot of the members here are ****. Not all some noone else please take offense to that if I haven't mentioned you. I come here for help and to give help, plan and simple. If you want to questio that then take a good look at my 1st reply. I tried to offer a comparison hopefully leading to a decission on how he could improve his times. It's apparent it can go faster as he pointed out 50 times that he mis 2nd gear. Guess what? **** happens and sometimes for the better. when I went 14.6 I was in 1st gear having to decided wether or not to break something from major wheel hop or to ease off the gas and take a lower et. I stayed on the gas and had a personal best and pulled yes pulled a Chevelle SS. Not saying he was running 100% but I was defineatly pulling him in.

Anyhow, try to not be so **** or defensive Silver. Poison I'm sure he can take care of himself and doesn't need your long biographies to help him out.
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Old May 27, 2003 | 06:23 PM
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Actually I have friends with B18C's and I love 'em. I just (obviously) chose the H22A set up for my car. But that is completely OT.

So I DO! have a clue about the B18C. You're a tool as well. I'm not defending, I'm simply making a clear point to you that B18C won't walk an H22A and giving you an experienced lesson, to help you out so you don't tell other people "yea dude, my b18c walked his h22a for lunch and dinner" when it didn't happen!

Unless of course the driver fucked up or the B18C had nawsssssss.

You just love the tampon don't ya? I'm damn sure we'd have a ball hanging. I have no grief with ya man. I'm just giving you a hard punch point.



There is not a lot of **** people here. Just hardcore and want to know absolute answers with no BS. Because false info costs $$.

I come here to give help the most I can as well, and get help when needed.

Both the B18C and H22A are awesome set ups for hybrids.

Yes **** happens, he missed 2nd. So what? Not a bad time for missing 2nd. I ran 15.00 flat when I missed 2nd. **** happens huh? So I came back and got a good run.

Everyone does it. Plain and simple.

I know Silver can take care of him self. Like I said, I'm giving you another part of a point, and from my experience that it's not gonna happen. But there are millions of factors that come into play as I'm definitely sure you know.

And I am by far not one who types long biographies. Wait till you visit here a little longer. You will know what I'm talking about. I just organize my posts more to make it easier to read, rather than type one HUGE paragraph and such like ::cough:: someone ::cough:: does.

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