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Old May 24, 2003 | 08:42 AM
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Go at http://www.google.com and search at imeges : "S2000 2200" May the new S2000 is a coupe???! I don't know how to post that image sorry.
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Old May 24, 2003 | 09:23 AM
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NO it is not a coupe.
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Old May 24, 2003 | 02:12 PM
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looks like porche or something.
i read a artical about 2200 s2k, and it says that it's going to be 2.2 liter but hp will be the same and tq will be 235NM(have no idea wat's NM) and the weight will be around 2866lb with hard top and rear windshield. no matter it's slower or faster.. it's a new design


Modified by YelLowITR at 1:00 AM 5/25/2003
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Old May 24, 2003 | 04:01 PM
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read these:

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/sho...23834

and


http://www.s2ki.com/forums/sho...25102

good info on this site Also the above pictures and not real
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Old May 24, 2003 | 05:34 PM
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Good Post CivicBoy...BTW YellowITR...NM is a NewtonMeter. It is the metric way of measuring torque (Amount of force "Newtons" applied over length "Meter") Hope that helps.
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Old May 28, 2003 | 09:25 PM
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NM is the torque unit Newton(Meters)
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Old May 29, 2003 | 12:28 PM
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how much do u guys think it will run for???
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Old May 29, 2003 | 02:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by charminpnoyracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much do u guys think it will run for???</TD></TR></TABLE>

Same price as a pristine lakefront property that I may be able to sell you at an incredible price.
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Old May 29, 2003 | 06:06 PM
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That looks kinda cool.
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Old Jun 1, 2003 | 10:47 AM
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1 Nm = 0.7376 ft-lb

-and-

1 ft-lb = 1.3558 Nm

Metric units are easier to work with when doing tech stuff.... even wrenching. Eg. is when you need a 5/16 or 7/32 socket. Much easier to look for a 5 or 6 mm socket.

Anyway, increased displacement often results in higher torque if the stroke is increased (rather than bore) because it results in a longer crank throw, which increases "m" in the Nm equation.

This is greatly simplified and there are lots of other factors but generally speaking a longer stroke = more torque but lower redline.

Shorter stroke = more revs but doesn't increase torque. More revs at same combustion efficiency = more horsepower

Everything is a compromise.


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Old Jun 1, 2003 | 11:10 AM
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i was just wondering what that conversion factor is now i don't have to look it up.

thanx.
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Old Jun 2, 2003 | 07:18 AM
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KoOOL!!!!
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 01:28 AM
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heard they arent going to rename it..i mean if its true to its name it should be s2200...
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 09:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YelLowITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
looks like porche or something.
i read a artical about 2200 s2k, and it says that it's going to be 2.2 liter but hp will be the same and tq will be 235NM(have no idea wat's NM) and the weight will be around 2866lb with hard top and rear windshield. no matter it's slower or faster.. it's a new design


Modified by YelLowITR at 1:00 AM 5/25/2003</TD></TR></TABLE>


lol, i like the older one better. looks somewhere between a porche and a 350z
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 10:00 AM
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i thnk it looks pretty kOo....but i like da s2000 (conver.) better
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 03:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by al4t1gbundy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">heard they arent going to rename it..i mean if its true to its name it should be s2200...</TD></TR></TABLE>
actually its should be a S1997 cuz its actually a 1997cc engine. but what sounds cooler? S1997 or S2000?
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 08:46 AM
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It's fake...that thing has been around forever
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 04:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyway, increased displacement often results in higher torque if the stroke is increased (rather than bore) because it results in a longer crank throw, which increases "m" in the Nm equation. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Whaaaa???? Are you kidding me?!?!

The amount of torque a motor makes does not depend at all on the distance the rod journal is from the centerline of the crank. You increase the stress on the crank, but the burning air/fuel mixture is what gives you the torque force.

The reason why a longer stroke makes more torque at a lower RPM than an equal displacement, shorter stroke engine is all about piston speed and port velocity. The longer the stroke, the more the mixture has to move and typically, the faster the piston is accelerated from TDC. This maxxes out your available port flow sooner in the rev band, giving you good atomization and burn kinetics. Speaking of burn kinetics, with the longer stroke, the piston has a higher average velocity at any point in the rev range compared to the shorter stroke motor. This tends to get your into higher volumetric efficiencies sooner in the rev range.

As for why they can't rev as high as a shorter stroke motor, piston speed and port velocity(note these reasons are the same as to why it produces more torque). You saturate your ports and your pistons are moving fast enough to drop off your volumetric efficiency up in the rev band.

A longer stroke motor will always be more demanding of flow in its head ports than a shorter stroke motor of the same displacement.
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 01:36 PM
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Thanks for the insight. I feel like a dumbass , but all the better for it.

The way I looked at it was that "N" was the thermo/combustion side of the equation, which is dependent on engine layout and dimensions, which limit piston speed, etc.

But yeah, what you said makes a lot of sense.

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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 01:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Def &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Whaaaa???? Are you kidding me?!?!

The amount of torque a motor makes does not depend at all on the distance the rod journal is from the centerline of the crank. You increase the stress on the crank, but the burning air/fuel mixture is what gives you the torque force.

The reason why a longer stroke makes more torque at a lower RPM than an equal displacement, shorter stroke engine is all about piston speed and port velocity. The longer the stroke, the more the mixture has to move and typically, the faster the piston is accelerated from TDC. This maxxes out your available port flow sooner in the rev band, giving you good atomization and burn kinetics. Speaking of burn kinetics, with the longer stroke, the piston has a higher average velocity at any point in the rev range compared to the shorter stroke motor. This tends to get your into higher volumetric efficiencies sooner in the rev range.

As for why they can't rev as high as a shorter stroke motor, piston speed and port velocity(note these reasons are the same as to why it produces more torque). You saturate your ports and your pistons are moving fast enough to drop off your volumetric efficiency up in the rev band.

A longer stroke motor will always be more demanding of flow in its head ports than a shorter stroke motor of the same displacement.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wow...great explanation...I bow before you
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 11:39 AM
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Def, thanks for the explanation.. Are you a mechanical engineer?
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