Brake Pads - front/rear pad compound characteristics affect cornering characteristics???
Im currently in search of a set of brake pads for track use and I have several questions in mind...
First of all, how does different front and rear pad compound combos affect the car's cornering characteristics (ie. initial turn-in of corners, trail braking, etc..). For example, how would a car with the same pad compound on all 4 corners differ from a car with pad compounds with more braking power up front compared to the rear in cornering? Any other factors that determine front / rear combo's?
Im looking into Ferodo DS3000 for the front, for the rear I dont know if I should go with DS3000 also or go with something with less braking power like Axxis Ultimates. Any other suggestions/recommendations for brake pad setups?
First of all, how does different front and rear pad compound combos affect the car's cornering characteristics (ie. initial turn-in of corners, trail braking, etc..). For example, how would a car with the same pad compound on all 4 corners differ from a car with pad compounds with more braking power up front compared to the rear in cornering? Any other factors that determine front / rear combo's?
Im looking into Ferodo DS3000 for the front, for the rear I dont know if I should go with DS3000 also or go with something with less braking power like Axxis Ultimates. Any other suggestions/recommendations for brake pad setups?
normally for a track event you should run one step "softer" or one grade down on your rear pads...
the fronts do a good 85% of the braking & having an agressive rear pad may make the backend lockup if you're runnign a street setup w/o a byass adjuster.
track cars normally have much larger pads in the front & can take advantage of an agressive pad at all four corners...
but if you drive it on the street, i'd stay away from an R compound out back.
i have R4-S on the rear & EBC crap-os up front & i get lossa rear lockup braking into turns. but it rotates GREAT!
the fronts do a good 85% of the braking & having an agressive rear pad may make the backend lockup if you're runnign a street setup w/o a byass adjuster.
track cars normally have much larger pads in the front & can take advantage of an agressive pad at all four corners...
but if you drive it on the street, i'd stay away from an R compound out back.
i have R4-S on the rear & EBC crap-os up front & i get lossa rear lockup braking into turns. but it rotates GREAT!
I've been using R4-S pads in the rear as well with competition race pads up front.
Works very well. Using an aggressive pad in the rear will not improved braking much and might lead to the rears locking up first (since the Type R has 65% static weight up front to begin with - under heavy braking it probably approaches 90%)
Works very well. Using an aggressive pad in the rear will not improved braking much and might lead to the rears locking up first (since the Type R has 65% static weight up front to begin with - under heavy braking it probably approaches 90%)
For a FWD car, it has a tendency to lift the inside rear wheel in corners, depending on the setup of your car. Generally speaking, you want the rear pads to be just strong enough that it won't lock up the rear tires at hard cornering.
Otherwise it would muck the ABS or if you don't have ABS, the rear tire would be locked and dragged on the ground and shoot out lotsa white smoke.
I guess it's really car and driving style dependent.....
Otherwise it would muck the ABS or if you don't have ABS, the rear tire would be locked and dragged on the ground and shoot out lotsa white smoke.
I guess it's really car and driving style dependent.....
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Get a good set of brake pads for the front and try using different pads in the rear to see what suits YOU best.
My only requirement for rear brake pads is that they are not on the backing plates. Others like to use the same brake pads at each corner.
It's really driver preference, as Wai stated.
Get a good set of brake pads for the front and try using different pads in the rear to see what suits YOU best.
My only requirement for rear brake pads is that they are not on the backing plates. Others like to use the same brake pads at each corner.
It's really driver preference, as Wai stated.
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