This might be a stupied ? to ask, but here it goes, I was looking at the weight of the type r and the 3d gen lude not to bad. So can a b18c5 be dropped into a 91 prelude?

 

anything can be done with enough money. that said, i'm not sure if they make a mount kit for this swap, maybe you should ask this in the hybrid forum

 

Your question is easy.
With enough money you can do anything. So yes, it will fit.

Give me $10,000 and I'll make it slide right in.

Would I do it? No. I'd put an H22 in it if you want a real swap.

As for your reasoning, it appears to be nothing more than random typing about weight, and no one is going to understand you. Reword your post so we can understand what in the world you're talking about.

And the only thing stupid... is that you misspelled stupid.

 

LOL. Thanks I feel better that I cant spell. Really I was asking it, because I know that the type-r engines are one of the most high-performance engines there are besides your supercars nsx so on. The h22 is easier, but heavier then the typr - r engine. My bad if i confused people by the post. I just thought the r engine would be better then the h22. Thanks

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lude019 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">one of the most high-performance engines there are</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's a high-performing engine FOR ITS SIZE! 190hp and measly torque does not make a super-engine. The H22 has more hp and much more torque; is it a super-engine? Nope, it's just a bit bigger...

 

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I think you're just lost. Why don't you buy a Spoon motor and put nawz on it in there y0.

The H22A1 pound for pound will out perform a Type R motor. Plus, the H22A1 and the NSX motor share more in common than the Type R motor.

 

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the 3rd gen prelude has unique mounts that allow the eninge to tilt back so the engine fits under the low hood line. No other engine will fit these mounts.

 

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the 3rd gen prelude has unique mounts that allow the eninge to tilt back so the engine fits under the low hood line. No other engine will fit these mounts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Tell that to all the guys running H22's in their 3rd gens.

 

in general, i would think that the weight of a B18 would be much closer in weight to the B20 than the H22. So if I were to do such a swap, I would put a B18 in there so as maintain a better F/R balance. I would also run a dry sump system for the reason noted above. (it's easier to fit a engine under the prelude hood if it's tilted)

 

the actual weight difference is not quite as much as you guys seem to think.

It's not like 300 lbs. lol

 

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Tell that to all the guys running H22's in their 3rd gens.</TD></TR></TABLE>

He was talking about the stock mounts...

 

place racing makes b seris mounts fo r3rd gen ludes....i have seen h22 in there but its custom ounts..... http://www.placeracing.com

 

you can either get the type R or h22 for your 3rd gen...but to be honest, the h22 is going to be wayyyy cheaper..i mean the type R motor is a very strong motor and these guys saying its not in the same class as the h22 are stupid plain and simple..i love my h22 but the b18c5 is also a great motor..the h22 will be cheaper though because b18c5s are like 4 to 5 grand...you can pick up a complete jdm h22 for like 2100-2400..peace

 

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The B20A from the Prelude is not related to B16/18/20 of the Integra or Civics. It is actually a relative of the A20 3rd generation Accord motor I believe. That is actually a pretty damn good little motor too (A20) all things considered.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PreludeRacer023 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">..i mean the type R motor is a very strong motor and these guys saying its not in the same class as the h22 are stupid plain and simple..
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Please elaborate on who you're callin stupid

 

Listen people i am not trying to start a flame war. I just asked if it could be done and i got some good answers. Thank you for the people that put good thoughts in. I really want to drop a b18c5 in the lude. (Type R) B18C5 Engine Swap
DOHC VTEC 200HP, 11.1:1 Compression Ratio. In my opinion the type r is better then the h22 plus lighter.

 

B18C5 - less performance, higher cost, slightly lighter.
H22 - more performance, less than half the cost, slightly heavier, and is a tried and true swap!

 

best yet. B20a5 + 10lbs of boost = 230 whp. And more boost = more hp's. Vtec what?

 

or you can tubo charge the H22, and make 400+ whp on pump gas.

 

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I like that idea the best, too bad the site is down so we cannpt see it

 

dont forget to upgrade the suspension w/ 5th gen coilovers.... yes the fit w/o modifications!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lude019 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Listen people i am not trying to start a flame war. I just asked if it could be done and i got some good answers. Thank you for the people that put good thoughts in. I really want to drop a b18c5 in the lude. (Type R) B18C5 Engine Swap
DOHC VTEC 200HP, 11.1:1 Compression Ratio. In my opinion the type r is better then the h22 plus lighter. </TD></TR></TABLE>
if you really want to drop in an B18C5 in your prelude, then do it. it's your car, your money, your time. do whatever the hell you want with it.
but if I were you, i'd do as much research on both H22A and B18C5 as possible.
that way you'll figure that H22 is the way to go in a 3rd gen.
why? well the JDM H22 makes the same amount of hp and makes more torque. you need to learn that higher displacement engines are not all about hp. what matters here is that torque. that is the only advantage of the H22. and it is well worth it.
it will pull better than the B18C5 for sure. 3rd gen lude and the ITR are similar in weight so dropping a B18C5 in there would make it a mid 14 second car. you would go faster with an H22. plain and simple. it's been proven. even in hatchbacks, B18C5 pulls better from the start but H22 catches up and passes.
B18C5 is a great motor, no doubt about it, but i'd rather go with an H22. first because of the cost, then because of the extra displacement. and yes, i'll give you that V8boy talk now, and feel free to repeat it after me: THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lone Luder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your question is easy.
With enough money you can do anything. So yes, it will fit.

Give me $10,000 and I'll make it slide right in.

Would I do it? No. I'd put an H22 in it if you want a real swap.

As for your reasoning, it appears to be nothing more than random typing about weight, and no one is going to understand you. Reword your post so we can understand what in the world you're talking about.</TD></TR></TABLE>
what he said

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HAHAHAHAHAA LMAO

 

If you're going to leave the motor stock after you put it in, go H22.
If you're going to mod it, go with a GSR or a B20VTEC. Much more bang for your buck due to parts availability. Type-R engine is not worth the premium, as the parts that make it 'special' end up being replaced during a buildup as it is...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alphajesse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you're going to leave the motor stock after you put it in, go H22.
If you're going to mod it, go with a GSR or a B20VTEC. Much more bang for your buck due to parts availability. Type-R engine is not worth the premium, as the parts that make it 'special' end up being replaced during a buildup as it is...</TD></TR></TABLE>

ITR motors are built right out of the factory. there arnt many after market parts because of this. duel stage vtec is always a good cause for premature ejaculation too. b20vtec would be fun. you know you can always throw the type r head on the b20 block....
this all depends on how much money you got, and what you are looking for. like someone said, the type-r will pull hard off the line, but the h22 does have a better top end and top speed.