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Old May 20, 2003 | 07:22 PM
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a freakin bitch to get on. It will not go on w/ the ITR rear sway and bsq kit for sure, unless you have about 10 washers on each side. That just seems stupid. Me, Aadel(1meangsr) and my dad worked for about 2 hours trying to get this stupid thing on. Once we finally get the lower subframe bolt in on one side we realize we are gonna have no luck getting teh other bolt in. The bsq kit is just in the way. I was told people have done this, but I swear we tried about everything and came to the conclusion this was a POS waste of money that won't even get on. Why waste $110 on the thing after you have an ITR rear sway anyways. Will it give any extra support?

Sorry for all the ranting and bitching, i'm sure aadel will add his comments in tonight, but that just pissed me off. Even Benen gave shitty extended bolts to use. They should have made the ends pointed like the stock bolts

Here are pictures of frustration....


Once we ran out of ideas, and 1030 rolled around....
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Old May 20, 2003 | 07:23 PM
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get some jack stands
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Old May 20, 2003 | 07:25 PM
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I thought you needed the tie bar extension for the Beaks reinforcement kit to use a lower tie bar with the ITR sway bar?

from https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=424559 -

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SoundBuys &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I can get you a Beaks renforcement kit wich with the Benen bar and an ITR sway would be the same as the Comptech.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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then again,

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Threatcon13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> You can use the itr rear swaybar w/ BSQ kit in conjunction with the benen rear lower tie bar with no clearance problems. If you do a search you can see a HT member's car with that setup. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old May 20, 2003 | 07:28 PM
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Silverb18c1: Yea I should probably invest in those for the sake of our lives...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bunmango &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I thought you needed the different Beaks reinforcement kit to use a lower tie bar with the ITR sway bar?

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We were told you could do it w/ the bsq kit. I believe Bret told Aadel that.
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Old May 20, 2003 | 07:29 PM
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Default Re: The Benen rear lower tie bar is..... (Tim Maryak)

Yea, Some people have said it works. I really don't know how. Anyone care to post a picture of it done?
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Old May 20, 2003 | 07:46 PM
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Default Re: The Benen rear lower tie bar is..... (Tim Maryak)

here's a picture of it with the Beaks kit:



and one with the BSQ kit:


and you might wanna read https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=222678
I got this from there, supposedly juglistgsr got it to work okay? Good luck
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Old May 20, 2003 | 07:58 PM
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do rear tie bars do anythong or are they just bling?
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Old May 20, 2003 | 08:09 PM
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I think it is only bling, but a lot of ppl say it stiffens up the rear subframe, which i'm sure it does. Worth 110? Probably not.

Thanks for the link, it seems to help but that guy says he mounted the washers in between the tie bar and bolt head. That seems to make no freaking sense. The only thing that would make sense is putting them between teh tie bar and subframe
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Old May 20, 2003 | 08:09 PM
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Bling, unless you do a turn doing at 180 mph and the suspension is shaking to bits from the g-forces

This thread looks like a bling bling effort gone bad.

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Old May 20, 2003 | 08:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SilverB18C1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get some jack stands</TD></TR></TABLE>



I was thinking the same thing...seeing someones head under a car with a scissor jack doing any sort of supporting or leveling just makes me scared...

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Old May 20, 2003 | 08:19 PM
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[scissor jack] that's a no no.
but awesome choice on the Benen struts.
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Old May 20, 2003 | 08:27 PM
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Default Re: The Benen rear lower tie bar is..... (Tim Maryak)

well I tried do your own search for "benen" and read up, I read through a bunch of them just now
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Old May 20, 2003 | 08:46 PM
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Please do get some jackstands. I don't want to see a bling install turn into a squished H-T member.

Is that carpet ya'll are installing it on?? Install the rear sway then take pics of it. Maybe we can help ya out.
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Old May 20, 2003 | 08:52 PM
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get rid of that bar and buy some damn tires...how can you get any of the handling benefits of suspension and sway bars on those POS stock Michelins.
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Old May 20, 2003 | 09:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gtravsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get rid of that bar and buy some damn tires...how can you get any of the handling benefits of suspension and sway bars on those POS stock Michelins.</TD></TR></TABLE> He's right.
That's also the wrong place to jack the car up from. That wood could slip and your next post will say "Integra fell on my head!" or "I put the jack in the wrong spot now where do I get a new subframe?" Just trying to help you avoid the headache.
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Old May 20, 2003 | 09:17 PM
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yo, no need to diss benen because you're frustrated. some people were able to install it with bsq's kit, and others, like me, needed spacers and longer bolts. get beak's spacer kit, and it will be a piece 'o pie. took me under 1/2 hour. and if you're going to install both the sway and the tie bar, the improvement will be all at once, so of course you won't be able to tell whether or not the bar did anything for you at all.

all i can say is i believe it works..and looks excellent...
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Old May 20, 2003 | 10:36 PM
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Yup, I ran into the fitment issue as well. Solution is big *** spacers. You can go to pepboys, autozone, and buy cheap spacers yourself or if you're ultra uber lazy like me, order the rather expensive spacer kit from beaks.
I actually still have it and its still brand new, you want it? I'll sell for cheap.
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Old May 20, 2003 | 10:52 PM
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Default Re: The Benen rear lower tie bar is..... (Tim Maryak)

i dont know how it is to run a beaks kit with a benen bar but i'll tell you this much...i have suspension techniques rear sway bar with jic-magic rear lower tie bar and its damn stiff and makes a difference on corners.

suspension techniques rear sway bar used: $75
rear lower jic-magic tie bar new: $90
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Old May 20, 2003 | 11:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg6si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont know how it is to run a beaks kit with a benen bar but i'll tell you this much...i have suspension techniques rear sway bar with jic-magic rear lower tie bar and its damn stiff and makes a difference on corners.

suspension techniques rear sway bar used: $75
rear lower jic-magic tie bar new: $90</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old May 21, 2003 | 05:20 AM
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you just need some washers and longer bolts.

Beak's gets their bolts from http://www.mcmaster.com, I forget the size off the top of my head.

It is "hard" to line up. Once you get the car secured on jackstands...
I just sat underneath and grabbed the rear lca with a set of channel locks and wrestled it in there.
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Old May 21, 2003 | 05:47 AM
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Looks like he wants to be the king of bling!

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Old May 21, 2003 | 08:01 AM
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LOL, thanks guys. I guess we were just a little frustrated because it was getting late and dark. We bought longer bolts and spacers, but I guess we just didn't have enough of them. I'll have him get some more spacers(or bigger ones) and we'll go at it again.

Hopefully we'll have jackstands then.

And yes, that is carpet, which I am sure is the worst surface to lift things on..
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Old May 21, 2003 | 08:02 AM
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He is getting new tires soon as well...
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Old May 21, 2003 | 03:03 PM
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sorry to jack ur thread, but
i just left my stock bolts with the skunk2's. i only have like 1 millimeter of thread sticking out on the other side or the LCA's though. its tight as it can be but is that dangerous?
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Old May 21, 2003 | 04:23 PM
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Use a big crescent wrench on the lca to twist it and line it up and an air ratchet to drive the bolt in. Always goes in easy this way. A little lube inside the lca also helps.
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