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Old May 19, 2003 | 07:50 PM
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Just finsihed dyno runs with spoon cams.. My moda are listed below. It seems 110 kw ATW is my max.. The engine components seems fine and seem more than capapble of handling extra horsies...

I was wondering is the max power for spoon at 8900 rpm... We tried advancing and retarding timing but made no difference +/- 3kw.... Only the fuel mixtures changed.. I'm currently runnning no advance or retard on in/ex.... any suggestions??? SGT???

Oh the injectors were under 94.9 % duty....

Really need help guys, if this is the best out of spoon , I'm off to get toda B's !!!!

Note: every run was very very constant, also running slightly cooler plugs due to CR
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Old May 19, 2003 | 07:55 PM
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Got a chart?
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Old May 19, 2003 | 07:58 PM
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cant get one today, will see what I can do!!!
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Old May 19, 2003 | 08:22 PM
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110 kW = 147.5 hp

(Someone doublecheck the math)

That doesn't sound quite right...

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Old May 19, 2003 | 08:33 PM
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Math has been double checked via:
http://www.pq1.com/gen_size.htm

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Old May 19, 2003 | 08:38 PM
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jansen u cant compare australian dyno figures and US dyno figures. aus dyno figures seem to be a lot lower than the US ones. you might have to post dyno figures when ur car was stock and then ur car after the spoon cams + tuning.


edit: stock type R ussually get 88-92kw atw
but 110kw with ur mods seems a little bit low. You know wat ur car dynoed stock on the sam dyno?

i think jacob changs car got 108 kw atw (and 84kw stock)but his car ran 13.5 so no need to worry too much about dyno figures 2 much.


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Old May 19, 2003 | 09:06 PM
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thanks guys... but honestly i know the car can produce more... I'm really tending towards the toda B..

Thank-you for your imputs!!!!! Gotta luv the H-T members..

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Old May 19, 2003 | 09:17 PM
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wat do u mean? how much did ur car gain with the spoon cams + tuning?

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Old May 19, 2003 | 10:22 PM
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Spoon cams are nothing like Toda B's.

I wouldn't expect a lot of gains over the stock cams.
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Old May 19, 2003 | 10:32 PM
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mugen header =
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Old May 19, 2003 | 11:53 PM
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lol. good enough for 210whp,but not good enough forthis guy aparently.

anyway, move the cams until you make more power.
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Old May 20, 2003 | 06:37 AM
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Spoon cams are much like Toda As, Skunk2 stg1s (Toda supposedly grinds them for Spoon from OEM Honda Blanks to Spoon's specs); very good mild cams. i'm sure many have seen this before, and surely it's a point of controversy (is this not the ITR forum on H-T?), but here goes: http://www.geocities.com/dynoc....html
the correction factor is not given, but at least most recognize Erick's Racing to be of good repute. (as well as the correction factor, i'd also be interested in knowing the rest of the setup for the car in which this was run, and some ETs.)

Manufacturer Intake Exaust
Toda Spec A 11.6 mm, duration - 250 @ 1m 11.2mm, duration - 240 @ 1mm

Spoon Sports
Int-256 dur. @ 1mm / 11.5mm lift
Exh-245 dur. @ 1mm / 11.1mm lift

Skunk2 Stage 1
Int-252 dur. @ 1mm / 11.5mm lift
Exh-249 dur. @ 1mm / 10.8mm lift

Civic Type-R And Integra Type-R(Integra Type R 2000/01 Spec)
Int-243 dur. @ 1mm / 11.5mm lift (pre-'00 ITR spec =&lt;3 deg on intake)
Exh-235 dur. @ 1mm / 10.5mm lift


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Old May 20, 2003 | 02:44 PM
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so what would you suggest I do with the cams..

Dial them back to 0 then...

In. adv or ret
Ex. adv or ret
and what degree increments???
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Old May 20, 2003 | 05:01 PM
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heeeeelpp please!!!!!
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Old May 20, 2003 | 05:44 PM
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Fark Jansen - you're so impatient. Have you even worn in your new mods yet?

You be out cruising tomorrow night?
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Old May 20, 2003 | 06:17 PM
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rick yep - that's me impatient and yeah i'm out!!!

So how about tuning help guys!!!
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