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Old Jul 10, 2001 | 08:37 PM
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OK guys I put some thought into this one after I heard the Prelude was getting axed. The reason this happened is because the ITR dethroned the Lude as the best-handling FWD car out there, and people who were looking for a high performance luxury Honda sport coupe could buy the Accord V6 coupe which is every bit as quick in a straight line. So that left the Lude in no man's land - not as sporty as the R, not as luxurious as the Accord coupe. So now it is gone. Here is what I propose for Honda.

*Bring back the Prelude name, but make it RWD.

*Give it a 3.0, 300hp (VTEC of course) version of the Accord V6, or build a 3.0 300hp I-6 and connect it to a 6-speed manual.

*Stretch the S2000 platform, and offer the new 'Lude on it as a 2+2 coupe.

*Price it at around $45-50K or so.

So there you have it. An honest-to-god 2+2 sports car with a 300 6-cylinder engine and 6-speed, slotted between the S2K and the NSX in both price and performance. This would give Honda a viable competitor to cars like the 911, BMW M3, and upcoming Nissan Z. Figure similar performance to all three - 0-60 in a bit less than 5 sec. Tell me what you think.
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Old Jul 10, 2001 | 08:42 PM
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Default Re: Semi-OT: What Honda should do (Ross1013)

Sounds like a plan....oh damn that'd be sweet...but they'd probablyafraid it would cut down on NSX sales
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Old Jul 10, 2001 | 08:46 PM
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If they made it an SUV they would probably sell a ton of them.
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Old Jul 10, 2001 | 08:47 PM
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What is so good about the NSX anyway? It's a silly looking, way too expensive car that doesn't even sound that fast...
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Old Jul 10, 2001 | 08:49 PM
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If they made it an SUV they would probably sell a ton of them.
Ummmm, MDX. 1 year wait list (in most areas)
They do, and they are selling a ton of them.
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Old Jul 10, 2001 | 08:59 PM
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NSX rocks, plain and simple. Why?

Mid-engine, rear-drive layout - the same used by Ferrari, Lamborghini, F1, CART, etc.

Bionic reflexes, 0-60 in 4.9 sec., 6 speed = basically a Japanese Ferrari. The difference? Around town, drives as easily as your basic Prelude. And costs $90K instead of $150K (list) for a Ferrari 360. when you look at its competitors, it' a bargain. Next generation will have 400hp and will be even quicker.

But what do you think of my idea man...stay on topic
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Old Jul 10, 2001 | 09:03 PM
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And they filled the correct market with all the soccer moms that'll NEVER take anything like a Hummer or an Escalade off road or Hell even off the beaten path, "like a paved sideroad." I hate F*ckin SUV's and the 3'4" witches that pilot them like floundering land yachts just ready to beach......

My wife wanted an MDX , and I would let her get one " even with my strong loathing, after all it IS a HONDA!" But she came to her senses and now wants a CL Type-S. Better choice I think!

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Old Jul 10, 2001 | 09:06 PM
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The CL Type-S is gettin a 6-speed fo sure. Then the TL might get it.
Signs of good things to come.
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Old Jul 10, 2001 | 09:06 PM
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LOL! MY wife wants one too!

Hrmmmmm.. Type S! Hmmmmmm
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Old Jul 10, 2001 | 09:07 PM
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And she is 4'11"!!!
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Old Jul 10, 2001 | 09:10 PM
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I like short girls. Mine is like 5 feet. it makes it easier to laugh at them when they want something.
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Old Jul 10, 2001 | 09:11 PM
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Dammit I guess no one liked my idea. Maybe I'll go post it in the Lude forum. or just go hang my head
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Old Jul 10, 2001 | 09:20 PM
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*Bring back the Prelude name, but make it RWD.
Naaa, Prelude name is already associated with sub-par performance now.
*Give it a 3.0, 300hp (VTEC of course) version of the Accord V6, or build a 3.0 300hp I-6 and connect it to a 6-speed manual.
ACURA already has this in line (IMO its probably on the horizon, where else can they go with the Type S?)
*Stretch the S2000 platform, and offer the new 'Lude on it as a 2+2 coupe.
Hmmmm....Just make the rear seats like the new Lexus SC430 (my 2 year old daughter couldnt even fit back there!)
*Price it at around $45-50K or so.
Too much to be competative
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Old Jul 10, 2001 | 09:37 PM
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For that much money, I'd rather buy a IS300 and mod it, or go buy a used M3.
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Old Jul 10, 2001 | 09:40 PM
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Default Re: Semi-OT: What Honda should do (Chris)

well at least I got some feedback.

you might be right about the name.
the CL Type-S is getting a 6-speed manual, but that car can't even carry a BMW's bags when it comes to handling (FWD with no LSD)
I'm sure they could make the seats decent - the M3 has fine ones.
I only said 45-50K so it would be sure not to step on S2000's toes and so people would know it was in a diff. league than CL. I'm sure Honda could make this car for 35K.
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Old Jul 10, 2001 | 10:24 PM
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**** I didnt read your post carefully. Yes Honda will come out with a prelude replacement and it will be rear drive based of the s2K I believe. WTF!! its 1:20am. I'll try and find the link tomorrow....
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Old Jul 10, 2001 | 10:34 PM
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For that much money, I'd rather buy a IS300 and mod it, or go buy a used M3.
You could buy a NEW M3 for that money.
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Old Jul 11, 2001 | 03:20 AM
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I like short girls. Mine is like 5 feet. it makes it easier to laugh at them when they want something.
hehe
also there a walking h j
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Old Jul 11, 2001 | 04:15 AM
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maybe with the Acura badge...would never take off with the Honda badge...not in Japan anyways..this is what I think honda should do...

1. 2002 Integra Type R platform with AWD
2. 2.0L Turbo V-tec I-4 300ps@7800rpms
3. 6-speed manual only
4. Price 28,000 usd to compete with STi and Evo VII

any takers?
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Old Jul 11, 2001 | 06:30 AM
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Good point about the AWD, why doesnt Honda get into the WRC scene?? Thats how the IMpreza became sooo freekin popular, One thin I will say AWD is nice, ( I have a WRX along with my R), however believe it or not, sometime I feel there is too much traction, I wish for rear drive sometimes, the one cool thing about the manual tranny in the WRX is that it 10% front and 90% rear driv ein normal driving, and if you do it right you can get the rear to step out on you in corners..hehe


I would love to see an AWD Type R, as far as turbo on a factory HONDA.................it will never happen in a million years, HONDA's stance on turbos is this..........it (turbo) is a cheap and unrelaible way to cover up poor engineering.
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Old Jul 11, 2001 | 06:54 AM
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Dude that's too weird. I just came up with that idea on my own but you say it's actually going to happen - the RWD Prelude part at least. Weird...
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Old Jul 11, 2001 | 06:55 AM
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I like short girls. Mine is like 5 feet. it makes it easier to laugh at them when they want something.
I like short girls, but short girls usually = short kids. I don't want a dwarf son
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Old Jul 11, 2001 | 07:14 AM
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IMHO:

Take the '96-'01 jdm itr and drop the s2k engine in it. RWD.

Done.

I'd buy one. And so would everyone else here...
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Old Jul 11, 2001 | 07:27 AM
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Is the S2k engine any heavier than the B18C? If not, hell - with the tranny under the car and the drive wheels out back, you'd end up with 50/50 weight in a RWD Type R. How freakin' cool would that be? Oh, and up the power a bit, too
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