Are any Civics 88+ 8 valve instead of 16?

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Old May 14, 2003 | 12:09 PM
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I saw a 92-95 civic hatchback in a magazine and under the specs it said 1.5L, 4 cylinder, 8 valve. Is that wrong, or were there any made like that?

And I know this question is stupid but how would it affect the performance if our cars were 8 valve?
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Old May 14, 2003 | 02:45 PM
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Default Re: Are any Civics 88+ 8 valve instead of 16? (OldSchoolHatch)

the D15B8 has 8 valves.......i <u>think</u> thats the 92-95 civic cx
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Old May 14, 2003 | 03:02 PM
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Default Re: Are any Civics 88+ 8 valve instead of 16? (OldSchoolHatch)

yes- there was an 8 valve model- I saw a gutted one w/ N2O run 12's last year at the track
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Old May 14, 2003 | 05:00 PM
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Default Re: Are any Civics 88+ 8 valve instead of 16? (OldSchoolHatch)

Yes, the '92-95 CX (D15B8) had the 8-valve engine. However, the pistons still have four valve reliefs cast into them, so a 16-valve head from a DX (D15B7) could be swapped on easily.
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Old May 14, 2003 | 05:56 PM
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i remember looking at an older 88-91 8valve head and admiring it's roller rocker style of cam rockers! if only they made 16v w/ that setup you'd have a 11krpm machine! weeeeEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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Old May 14, 2003 | 06:04 PM
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88-91 crx hf---8 valve with roller rocker arms
92-95 civic cx---8 valve
2003 civic hybrid---8 valve and 8 spark plugs
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Old May 14, 2003 | 06:05 PM
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Default Re: Are any Civics 88+ 8 valve instead of 16? (HavokRacing)

So was the CX a hatchback, or was there a sedan with 8 valves too? And how much does having 8 valves hinder the performance?
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Old May 17, 2003 | 03:13 PM
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bump for my last questions... and I was wondering if anyone has a picture of those roller rocker arms and can tell me how they work?
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Old May 18, 2003 | 08:43 AM
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Another bump... why did everyone stop postin?
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Old May 18, 2003 | 10:18 AM
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Default Re: Are any Civics 88+ 8 valve instead of 16? (OldSchoolHatch)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OldSchoolHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So was the CX a hatchback, or was there a sedan with 8 valves too?</TD></TR></TABLE>
CX models are hatchback-only.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And how much does having 8 valves hinder the performance?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Since there are only 8 valves, that means there is only 1 intake valve for each cylinder, and 1 exhaust valve. This, of course, is a bottleneck to the flow in and out of the cylinders. A 16-valve engine, in comparison, has 2 intake valves and 2 exhaust valves. This makes for two entrance and exit paths for flow through the clyinders, allowing more air/fuel mixture in, and more exhaust out - thus increasing the efficiency of the engine, and increasing the specific output (horsepower per unit displacement).

This is the way I understand it; if I'm wrong, someone correct me.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OldSchoolHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and I was wondering if anyone has a picture of those roller rocker arms and can tell me how they work?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Here is the idea behind the purpose of rollers in the valvetrain. Now, the pic shown there is of a pushrod engine which has actual "roller-rocker arms." Overhead cam engines, as in our Hondas, have pieces called "cam followers" instead of rocker arms.

Crane makes roller-tipped cam followers for B-series engines, but they must be used with cams designed specifically for this purpose; standard B-series cams will not work. As of right now, I think Crane is the only company making these cams and followers for B-series engines.

The D15Z1 Civic VX engine and D16Y5 Civic HX engine are equipped with the roller-tipped cam followers fro the factory; however, they are of no use to us from a performance standpoint, since they are VTEC-E engines. Also, according to the others in this thread, the 8-valve D15B6 CRX HF engine is equipped with roller-tipped followers. That's something I didn't know before . . .

All of Honda's new K-series engines use roller followers as well.
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Old May 19, 2003 | 10:59 AM
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Default Re: Are any Civics 88+ 8 valve instead of 16? (OldSchoolHatch)

Thanks for the reply man, that's what I needed to know.
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