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Old May 11, 2003 | 07:17 PM
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like it says but also, is 70mm too large for N/A set up.
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Old May 11, 2003 | 10:10 PM
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Default Re: will a 70mm throttle body go on a S2 IM w/o porting it. (hicamjunkie)

yes you have to port it but as far as it being too big, probably too big on a mild n/a but a nasty *** n/a car it would prolly be nice, i have a 68-66 ericks tb and s2 mani for my 12-1cr and skunk stage 2 2.0 ls/vtec n/a car
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Old May 11, 2003 | 10:16 PM
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unless its tapered from 70-68 or something
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Old May 11, 2003 | 10:29 PM
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yes- what dafelung said--- unless it tranitions down to 65mm- or whatever the diameter of the S2 IM is, I do not see any benefits of the 70mm TB, as well as possible adverse affects.
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Old May 12, 2003 | 07:12 AM
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Default Re: will a 70mm throttle body go on a S2 IM w/o porting it. (bhive9024)

the S2 IM is 64mm, should that not be exceeded? would a 65mm TB be a decent choice or should it really match?
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Old May 12, 2003 | 10:52 AM
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Default Re: will a 70mm throttle body go on a S2 IM w/o porting it. (hicamjunkie)

70mm is way too big for anything but a large turbo setup...

NOT for N/A
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Old May 12, 2003 | 11:00 AM
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Default Re: will a 70mm throttle body go on a S2 IM w/o porting it. (dLo GSR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dLo GSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">70mm is way too big for anything but a large turbo setup...

NOT for N/A</TD></TR></TABLE>

Completely agree. Unless, you're running a 10sec all-motor setup(even that's pushing it). Bigger is not always better.
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Old May 12, 2003 | 11:58 AM
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so.. would you guys say that even a 65mm TB on a 64mm plenum is not wise? would a 64mm or 62mm be even a better choice?
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Old May 12, 2003 | 12:20 PM
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Default Re: will a 70mm throttle body go on a S2 IM w/o porting it. (hicamjunkie)

if you can get a good taper on a bigger throttle body, then it would be okay. but 70mm is still too big.

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Old May 12, 2003 | 12:22 PM
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Default Re: will a 70mm throttle body go on a S2 IM w/o porting it. (dLo GSR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dLo GSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">70mm is way too big for anything but a large turbo setup...

NOT for N/A</TD></TR></TABLE>
incorrect. in their race car, my local shop runs 70mm and 11.3s


Modified by hybridvteceg at 8:38 PM 5/13/2003
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Old May 12, 2003 | 12:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridvteceg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
incorrect. in their race car, InlinePro runs 70mm and 11.3s </TD></TR></TABLE>

not that im arguing, but where did u find this out? it doesn't say on their webpage

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Old May 12, 2003 | 12:33 PM
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Default Re: will a 70mm throttle body go on a S2 IM w/o porting it. (MikeMAN)

i live 15 mins away and the shop that i work for is pretty tight with them. saw it myself.
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Old May 12, 2003 | 12:34 PM
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but for me its ITBs
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Old May 12, 2003 | 01:33 PM
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Default Re: will a 70mm throttle body go on a S2 IM w/o porting it. (hybridvteceg)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridvteceg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i live 15 mins away and the shop that i work for is pretty tight with them. saw it myself.</TD></TR></TABLE>

k, kewl

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Old May 12, 2003 | 09:51 PM
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Default Re: will a 70mm throttle body go on a S2 IM w/o porting it. (MikeMAN)

i'm sure that's more aggressive than i'll ever run, that probably has an 86 or 87mm bottom end, drag cams/ drag set up. one day i want to do 84mm with some good cams like toda specB or something, but untill then i've got a B18c1 with S2 IM, ITR CAI, JDM DC Header and an ITR intake cam. now i wanted to do a throttle body mainly because of using the ITR throttle stay position and cable and the GSR pully on the throttle body dosen't match up very well. i know i don't want to spend spoon or JDM ITR throttle body money unless nessicary, will any one recommend a good match for this kind of set up? brand, size etc... also MikeMAN, you mentioned "tapered" whats that?? i mean, i now what tapered means.. just not how/ why with throttle bodies...sorry about being a newbie in this particular area...
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Old May 12, 2003 | 10:33 PM
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Default Re: will a 70mm throttle body go on a S2 IM w/o porting it. (hicamjunkie)

basically,it "compresess" the air and speends it up when entering the throttle body.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 06:44 AM
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Default Re: will a 70mm throttle body go on a S2 IM w/o porting it. (hicamjunkie)

tapered starts off at stock size in the middle, then comes out to its' limits at the edge, so it funnels the air in, and most cases you dont need a new throttle plate.

buy a 66mm one from BBK if they sell that size. if not ericks racing.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 12:07 PM
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Default Re: will a 70mm throttle body go on a S2 IM w/o porting it. (hybridvteceg)

If anyone wants to go to a 70mm or larger throttle body for N/A, they should go to ITB instead.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 01:08 PM
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buy a 66mm one from BBK if they sell that size. if not ericks racing.[/QUOTE]

i think the BBK is available in 62 or 68mm, what about a 65mm JG edelbrock? and/ or why BBK?
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Old May 13, 2003 | 01:10 PM
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also, what is an ITB?? sorry about the newbie thing again...
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Old May 13, 2003 | 02:55 PM
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Default Re: will a 70mm throttle body go on a S2 IM w/o porting it. (hicamjunkie)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hicamjunkie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also, what is an ITB?? sorry about the newbie thing again...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Individual throttle booties!
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Old May 13, 2003 | 03:31 PM
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bbks just plain suck imho...id get you original one bored out which isnt all that expensive bout 150 bucks...or go w/ a jg 65mm one...ericks racing makes some really nice ones if you got the $$$...but 70mm is hella big for a n/a setup
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Old May 13, 2003 | 04:38 PM
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BBK is good, ive seen them be fine, and remember its a TB nothing of that much complication, the plate opes and closes, thats all...
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Old May 13, 2003 | 04:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridvteceg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BBK is good, ive seen them be fine, and remember its a TB nothing of that much complication, the plate opes and closes, thats all...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I heard they get stuck.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 04:50 PM
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works fine in the race car ive seen
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