I am looking at a 91 Hatch tomorrow night, 114,000 miles, and 5 speed but its a DX model. Coming from driving a prelude I know little about the older civics. I want to get some info about the car. What engine is in it? How much does it weigh?........Is the B16 hype or is it a good choice? I dont want to make a race car out of it, low 14's would be my goals for the car. I searched but found limited results, i want to get first hand info from people who know. One more question, will my GSR wheels fit? I know a lot of questions, but any info would be appreciated.

 

Engine = D15, 90something HP
Weight = 2100LBS or so
B16 = good motor (as long as torque is not a big concern) but you will need to convert to multi point FI to put in a b16
GSR Wheels = Yup, they fit.

 

yeah it has 92hp
the only problem i see with the dx is that it has dual point injection which means only 2 injectors. but doing a mpfi swap isnt that hard, i just did it so i know.
i agree that the b16 is a good motor, and low 14s isnt that hard to get with a hatch, what like b16 with a jackson racing supercharger, youd probably be in the 13s. good luck

 

1st Gen B16 with bolt-ons will easily do low 14's with full interior. My car is gutted, but all I've got is exhaust and a K&N drop-in filter.

And as far as wheels, ANY 4 lug civic or Integra wheel will work fine.

Hopefully the car will be nice and we'll have a new member to the EF board..

 

Modified by slownlow at 3:19 PM 5/8/2003

 

Thanks for the replies, I test drove the car last night and if everything checks out with my mechanic on friday the car is mine . I'm confident though, it drove like new and it doesn't have any rust or flaws in the exterior. I talked him down to 1,650.00$.

But its a four speed manual, I thought this was odd. Is this going to cause problems swapping in a b16 or b18? I don't imagine it would because the tranny is coming out, but i just want to make sure its not going cause any setbacks. And about the dual point fuel injection, how is it going to cause problems if I am swapping out the ecu, intake manifold etc. And what about that foot long shifter, thats going to be the first thing I change. I can't wait to see what my black GSR wheels are going to look like on the car being that it's a blue hatch.


Modified by slownlow at 3:21 PM 5/8/2003

 

if its a 4 speed. it is a STD model... the engine has 70 hp,... but that doesnt matter because u can swap something..... the HB is the lightest of all..2065.. good luck and keep us posted

 

70 HP, damn that little 1.5 is getting ripped out as soon as possible. Is there anyone who has experience with doing a motor swap with this particular STD model? Mods please dont lock this, I need all the help I can get, and there is a good chance there is somebody in this forum that will info on this particular swap. Thanks

 

check my signature...... its a basic run tru... i havent make it very detailed bc i dont have time

 

Great info, thanks. B16 is my choice although i want the second gen B16.

 

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Man, would you just buck up for that B18c1...so you save a little longer for the motor, you'll be happier in the end! By the time you get around to putting the motor in, you'll be out of school and have a job where you can afford to mod a GSR motor.

 

There is about a $1400 difference between the b16A 2nd gen and a b18c I would go with a b16A an spend the extra $ on goodies for the motor.
You will need to pick up an OBD0-OBD1 conversion harness also to do the swap.
Good Luck.

 

ef weights for the STD model are:
1988: 1933lbs
1989: 2013
1990: 2127
1991: 2127

 

B16A a relatively easy swap, but most of all it's super cheap. I mean, the motor only costs $1,150 from HondaMotorsOnline. 2nd gen B16's will run you alot more. I just recently dropped a B16A into my '91 DX and it's a great motor for the ED/EF civic!