Setting timing on B16
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Setting timing on B16
Hey guys, I'm trying to set my timing on my gen 1 b16A because i've adjusted my cam gears to +1 intake and -1 exhaust but I'm having trouble.
I have found the mark I'm supposed to be lining up, the one with the red arrow but the timing marks show up like on the picture, with the white 16 degree mark where the white dot is, and the TDC mark is where the red dot is.
Even if I advance the distributer completely the white mark is still a centimetre or so from lining up.
Any ideas?
I should be looking along the marker so it looks like a triangle right?
Cylinder one is the one closest to the crank pulley right?
Is something different because of the adjusted cam gear? or should it be the same process.
The timing belt isn't off a tooth.
On OBD 0 cars, is there a jumper to join? I think i've done it properly.
Heres the pic:
I have found the mark I'm supposed to be lining up, the one with the red arrow but the timing marks show up like on the picture, with the white 16 degree mark where the white dot is, and the TDC mark is where the red dot is.
Even if I advance the distributer completely the white mark is still a centimetre or so from lining up.
Any ideas?
I should be looking along the marker so it looks like a triangle right?
Cylinder one is the one closest to the crank pulley right?
Is something different because of the adjusted cam gear? or should it be the same process.
The timing belt isn't off a tooth.
On OBD 0 cars, is there a jumper to join? I think i've done it properly.
Heres the pic:
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Re: Setting timing on B16 (Xsi)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Xsi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey guys, I'm trying to set my timing on my gen 1 b16A because i've adjusted my cam gears to +1 intake and -1 exhaust but I'm having trouble.
I have found the mark I'm supposed to be lining up, the one with the red arrow but the timing marks show up like on the picture, with the white 16 degree mark where the white dot is, and the TDC mark is where the red dot is.
Even if I advance the distributer completely the white mark is still a centimetre or so from lining up.
Any ideas?
I should be looking along the marker so it looks like a triangle right?
Cylinder one is the one closest to the crank pulley right?
Is something different because of the adjusted cam gear? or should it be the same process.
The timing belt isn't off a tooth.
On OBD 0 cars, is there a jumper to join? I think i've done it properly.
Heres the pic: </TD></TR></TABLE>
On my CRX, you connect the jumper underneath the hood on the passenger side shock tower, under the yellow plug.
Yes, the sight line should look like a triangle.
Cylinder one is the closest one to the crank pulley.
It should be the same process, but setting the cam will have changed your timing.
I think you're doing something backwards... advancing the timing moves the white mark further away from the sight line, not towards. When you turn the distributor when the car's running, if you're advancing the timing the idle speed should increase. Similarly, retarding the timing should cause the idle to lower. Turning the distrib towards the firewall advances, turning it towards the front of the car retards.
The timing marks on the crank pulley are actually 3 small ticks on the pulley beside each other. The center mark is the stock 15 degrees of ignition advance.
I have found the mark I'm supposed to be lining up, the one with the red arrow but the timing marks show up like on the picture, with the white 16 degree mark where the white dot is, and the TDC mark is where the red dot is.
Even if I advance the distributer completely the white mark is still a centimetre or so from lining up.
Any ideas?
I should be looking along the marker so it looks like a triangle right?
Cylinder one is the one closest to the crank pulley right?
Is something different because of the adjusted cam gear? or should it be the same process.
The timing belt isn't off a tooth.
On OBD 0 cars, is there a jumper to join? I think i've done it properly.
Heres the pic:
On my CRX, you connect the jumper underneath the hood on the passenger side shock tower, under the yellow plug.
Yes, the sight line should look like a triangle.
Cylinder one is the closest one to the crank pulley.
It should be the same process, but setting the cam will have changed your timing.
I think you're doing something backwards... advancing the timing moves the white mark further away from the sight line, not towards. When you turn the distributor when the car's running, if you're advancing the timing the idle speed should increase. Similarly, retarding the timing should cause the idle to lower. Turning the distrib towards the firewall advances, turning it towards the front of the car retards.
The timing marks on the crank pulley are actually 3 small ticks on the pulley beside each other. The center mark is the stock 15 degrees of ignition advance.
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make sure you jump the service connector under your right kickpanel by your ecu, it is the smaller one of the two. Just put a paperclip in there and if it is the right one then your check engine light will come on. If you dont do this then your timing readings will be incorrect
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Re: (racerx707)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by racerx707 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">make sure you jump the service connector under your right kickpanel by your ecu, it is the smaller one of the two. Just put a paperclip in there and if it is the right one then your check engine light will come on. If you dont do this then your timing readings will be incorrect</TD></TR></TABLE>
I know that this is the correct way to adjust timing, but what does it actually do? Does it keep the ecu from adjusting timing? I've tried adjusting timing without the jumper before and it worked fine except for the fact that the car took forever to settle down, (the timing kept jumping up and down)
I know that this is the correct way to adjust timing, but what does it actually do? Does it keep the ecu from adjusting timing? I've tried adjusting timing without the jumper before and it worked fine except for the fact that the car took forever to settle down, (the timing kept jumping up and down)
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Re: Setting timing on B16 (raene)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raene »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I think you're doing something backwards... advancing the timing moves the white mark further away from the sight line, not towards. When you turn the distributor when the car's running, if you're advancing the timing the idle speed should increase. Similarly, retarding the timing should cause the idle to lower. Turning the distrib towards the firewall advances, turning it towards the front of the car retards.
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It doesn't seem to matter how far I advance or retard the distributer, the white middle mark doesn't line up.
I was told there was no jumper on non OBD cars but I found one that looked likely under the kick panel( a green and a brown wire) but jumping this doesn't change anything and doesn't put the check light on.
I think you're doing something backwards... advancing the timing moves the white mark further away from the sight line, not towards. When you turn the distributor when the car's running, if you're advancing the timing the idle speed should increase. Similarly, retarding the timing should cause the idle to lower. Turning the distrib towards the firewall advances, turning it towards the front of the car retards.
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It doesn't seem to matter how far I advance or retard the distributer, the white middle mark doesn't line up.
I was told there was no jumper on non OBD cars but I found one that looked likely under the kick panel( a green and a brown wire) but jumping this doesn't change anything and doesn't put the check light on.
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Re: Setting timing on B16 (Xsi)
What that connector does is put the vehicle into base timing. It should be a blue connector 2 pin on the right side kick panel just below the dash. Jump the two wires and then set your timing.
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Re: Setting timing on B16 (Mr. Fix It)
I'm pretty sure I've found it, it's a 2 pin plug that goes nowhere in the left hand kick panel (mines JDM RHD) It doesn't seem to make any difference
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