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Old Apr 30, 2003 | 10:26 AM
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sorry I searched but could not find what I was looking for. Im blinding everyone, everyone is highbeaming me,thinking I have my highbeams on. anyone know where i can make the adjustments? (left to right and up and down) Thanks!
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Old Apr 30, 2003 | 10:54 AM
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i think you should search a little harder.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=357590
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Old Apr 30, 2003 | 10:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nightrider &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think you should search a little harder.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=357590</TD></TR></TABLE> thanks.
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Old Apr 30, 2003 | 01:45 PM
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Keep in mind that the JDM lights have a RHD-optimized beam pattern, so there will almost always be excess light in oncoming drivers' eyes unless the headlights are aimed relatively far downward or the projector shield is altered.
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Old Apr 30, 2003 | 03:48 PM
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Does the jdm HID headlight move left to right with another gear thing? Or is there something else?
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Old May 1, 2003 | 04:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Padawan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Keep in mind that the JDM lights have a RHD-optimized beam pattern, so there will almost always be excess light in oncoming drivers' eyes unless the headlights are aimed relatively far downward or the projector shield is altered. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Not true at all, I have aimed my lights as per the helms, and they DO NOT cause excessive glare. The flare on the left is definitely higher, but it does not rise to the height of drivers eyes.

If I were to park parallel to a wall, the beam along the wall would not cross the line representing the horizontal.
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Old May 1, 2003 | 04:27 AM
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so jason.. did you do wat i told you to do? did everything werk out for ya?
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Old May 1, 2003 | 10:04 AM
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If there is no excessive glare to oncoming traffic due to the lights being aimed downward, the amount of illumination ahead and to the right side of the roadway is not as high as it should be.

Borrowed from HIDforum.com:



The purpose of the stepped cut-off (which is reversed on JDM headlights) is to reduce glare for oncoming drivers but still provide extended distance and sign illumination. There is simply no way to obtain an optimal beam pattern for US roads with unaltered JDM spec. HID projectors. Acceptable yes, but optimal, no.
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Old May 1, 2003 | 10:27 AM
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Has anyone altered the sheild in the projector to make the dip on the left to conform with US roadways?

I was thinking about it, but dont know where to start.
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Old May 1, 2003 | 11:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Padawan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If there is no excessive glare to oncoming traffic due to the lights being aimed downward, the amount of illumination ahead and to the right side of the roadway is not as high as it should be.

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The purpose of the stepped cut-off (which is reversed on JDM headlights) is to reduce glare for oncoming drivers but still provide extended distance and sign illumination. There is simply no way to obtain an optimal beam pattern for US roads with unaltered JDM spec. HID projectors. Acceptable yes, but optimal, no. </TD></TR></TABLE>

True, but as you can see, the Harmonized beam pattern does not produce significant glare despite being reversed. If it was a reversed ECE pattern, then I would be concerned, but having driven towards my integra, while using my Matrix, I can say that there is absolutely no bothersome glare.

Beam patterns can always be improved, there is still significant differences in light dispersion and brightess between different car manufacturers, so what might be considered optimal for one, is different for another.

I was concerned about getting an even light distribution with no hotspots, and the JDM projectors have given me this. I drive mainly in the city where there is adequate illumination of street signs, so that is not a major concern. What would be concern is the HID with the DOT beam pattern. The bright hotspots reduce your sensitivity to low light, and give a false sense of security as you cannot see past the edge of the area illuminated by the HID in a DOT projector
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Old May 1, 2003 | 12:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by canuck-mx6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">True, but as you can see, the Harmonized beam pattern does not produce significant glare despite being reversed. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Agreed, however the JDM ITR HID (that's a lot of acronyms) projectors do not have a "harmonized" beam pattern. It is, of course, not as drastic as the E-code projector in the top illustration, and this is a plus when trying to use the lights on LHD vehicle, but the "step" is indeed still there, and is still the opposite of what would be used on a USDM/CDM system.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by canuck-mx6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Beam patterns can always be improved, there is still significant differences in light dispersion and brightness between different car manufacturers, so what might be considered optimal for one, is different for another.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Again - agreed, although I think many would have a hard time referring to a beam pattern designed and optimized for use on a RHD car as "optimal". I will, however, concede that there are many extremely poor USDM headlight systems out there that are out-performed by even the RHD-optimized JDM projectors.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by canuck-mx6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I was concerned about getting an even light distribution with no hotspots, and the JDM projectors have given me this. I drive mainly in the city where there is adequate illumination of street signs, so that is not a major concern. What would be concern is the HID with the DOT beam pattern. The bright hotspots reduce your sensitivity to low light, and give a false sense of security as you cannot see past the edge of the area illuminated by the HID in a DOT projector</TD></TR></TABLE>

No arguments here either. My original point was that it is impossible to achieve the lighting output that the OEM designers originally intended without causing excess glare to oncoming drivers when used on US/Canadian roads. If there is no glare (due to the lights being aimed in a certain manner), the beam is not reaching as far as it would/should be on the OEM JDM car. Is it better then a 9006 HID retrofit? Yes. Would the lights provide better illumination when properly aimed on a JDM car and used on RHD roadways? Yes.

EDIT: Modified for Canada-friendliness
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Old May 2, 2003 | 05:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Padawan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


No arguments here either. My original point was that it is impossible to achieve the lighting output that the OEM designers originally intended without causing excess glare to oncoming drivers when used on US/Canadian roads. If there is no glare (due to the lights being aimed in a certain manner), the beam is not reaching as far as it would/should be on the OEM JDM car. Is it better then a 9006 HID retrofit? Yes. Would the lights provide better illumination when properly aimed on a JDM car and used on RHD roadways? Yes.

EDIT: Modified for Canada-friendliness </TD></TR></TABLE>

Okay, I concede this point, the current beam pattern may not be as optimal if aimed as intended for use in a RHD car, but I am satisfied with the result, considering that it is still better than a DOT HID retrofit.
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