http://ferrari.colowatch.com/php/sho...sb=5&o=0&part=

 

http://forums.clubsi.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/003934.html

 

I'm leaning towards Atomic right now. Larry does seem all talk. I never seen proof of his built motors and I live in Texas.

 

This is some crazy ****! I am glad i never sent any money to this guy. The way i see it, "IF" it wasnt true, Why would Atomic go through this much trouble, HE WOULD NOT!

Bryan

 

hehehe...humans are a bunch of parasites...they live by eating off other people's problems...LoL

This is the OJ Simpson's Trial Part 2...

Great Gossip

 

All I can say is wait till you hear the info from Mike Miannia. He is having his whole N/A R engine done by Larry (Endyn) and is expecting it back and ready for the expo. Then and then only will I take the information.
Anyway, instead of posting rumors, just wait till you see it for yourself on Mike's car.

 

We all know Dan has never had much of an opinion about Larry but I never thought I'd ever see the day Jeff at Atomic and Dan agree on something...miracles never cease to amaze me.

As for the supercharger, ever think about what would happen if Larry actually sold those Eaton SC's? Oscar Jackson would sue the living daylights out of him. So there is a very reasonable reason why those SC's aren't out or ever will be. JR doesn't have the liability risk to run that volume of sales and crank the boost up to 15-17 psi while maintaining some sort of warranty package. As it is, he has enough problems with 6 psi.

I can tell you one thing: race Tony the Tiger and talk to me about those Endyn Rollerwave pistons and their ability to make power for the price compared to say Arias (same price range).

I wonder what Jeff will do now that he can't make humungus gains with an Endyn head/pistons and post these big dyno numbers. I'd like to see that car now stripped of Endyn parts and see if they can make the 225 whp all motor it had.

cheers




[Modified by Michael Delaney, 6:38 PM 7/2/2001]

 

I based my opinions of Larry and Endyn on the little I've seen, but mostly on the advise that has helped me and the hours long conversations I've had with Larry. Guess you have to have gotten your fingers real dirty and hit the big power wall to understand his genuis... is he a liar? Does he do bad business? I can't say from personal experience... is he a internal combustion engine genius? YES! Take from that what you may... I will still befriend him(as I do anyone) until I I feel I shouldn't...


[Modified by Zeus, 6:40 PM 7/2/2001]

 

http://ferrari.colowatch.com/php/sho...sb=5&o=0&part=

look at the whole picture.

 

all i can say is this.. this whole import scene turned into a bunch of money grubing pigs.. nobody gives a f*$% about quality being done.. its all about the $$$.. just get it in and out... who gives a **** how it comes out.. most of you may not believe this but this is how many shops function in cali these days.. and this is from personal experience... if you cant back your work up dont even attempt to do it.. its simple.. i dont care what kind of history you may have behind yourself.. also if you make a promise, try to keep it, especially if people pay you to do it.. its a simple business policy.. you pay for service to be done and expect to have it done on time... this is just my opinion, maybe i'm wrong but when you get your own hard earned money taken away from you, you will think differently.

 

Wasn't Tony the Tigers car fast before he put Endyn pistons in it?

I'm not an Endyn basher or an Atomic fan. I've never dealt with either one.

But from what I have seen of Endyn's piston they just look like they took the Wiseco piston and put radii on all the sharp edges.

Yeah Larry is smart but there are a thousand guys out there that can tell Wiseco how big or how small to make the head of the piston to get certain compression ratios. Doesn't seem like genius to me unless I'm missing something.

Didn't you purchase some Endyn pistons awhile back? Did they make you say "Holy Sh*t?"


[Modified by SuspectProduct, 3:15 AM 7/3/2001]

 

I'll let Tony speak about his car but put it this way he wasn't running down M5's with his ITR single manifold, Toda B's, and stock GSR pistons.

They are not the same ...look at the valve reliefs carefully before you get sucked by the Atomic propaganda machine.

 

How much difference do you think Endyn truly made in his car compared to say CTR pistons? Or if not CTR pistons say another off the shelf mass produced piston? A few horspower?

Didn't you purchase a set of these a while back? What are your results?

p.s. Atomic is sucking anything of mine.

 

Was my car fast before the ENDYN Rollerwave pistons? Haha, you are joking, right? I was running mid 14's back then.

Here's my first hand experience with ENDYN parts:

My ECU was tuned for stock GSR compression with Spec B cams, and the AFR was perfect before I dropped in the RW pistons. After I dropped in the RW pistons, my AFR was completely rich throughout the entire powerband. That was with 12.2:1 CR compared to 10.0:1 stock! Keep in mind that nothing was changed for the fuel settings, and my timing is advanced to 19 with 92 oct fuel. Using my AF meter and fuel controller, I had to lean out by 25% from 700-1900RPM, 23% from 2000-3900RPM, 18% from 4000-5900RPM, 15% from 6000-7900RPM, and 13% from 8000-9000RPM. All this leaning was just to prevent flames out of my exhaust and spewing thick black smoke whenever I do a WOT. Guess what, I am hitting 2** WHP on the dyno with all stock fuel components and no actual dyno tuning. Sorry, i am keeping my numbers confidential for now because I am going to scare all of you with extreme numbers after this whole ENDYN mess is all over with I believe only a couple of guys know about my recent numbers.
I am not a track junkie, so I don't have up to date timeslips, but I am into street races. You should come check out all my videos...hahaha. I burn everything from Corvette C5's, Mustang SVT Cobras to Talons running 20 psi and such -- cars within mid to low 13's.

I held the ENDYN pistons in one hand, and a CTR in the other. I compared them side by side, and there were a lot of subtle but fascinating differences. I believe most of them are covered extensively on the ENDYN website. Anyway, I hate to keep telling people to shut up and stop spreading sh*t around. Think before you type -- have you ever held an ENDYN piston before? Have you compared the CTR and the ENDYN RW spec by spec? What is a "Wiseco" Piston, and how would the Rollerwaves look like a Wiseco with rounded edges? Dammit, the Rollerwaves ARE Wiseco pistons with custom machining work (valve reliefs, biased dome, etc..).

About the shipping and service of ENDYN:
Maybe you guys have problem communicating with Larry, but I got my ENDYN pistons in 3 days (from Texas to Toronto, through customs, etc...), and I got immediate help from Larry when I had problems slipping the piston pin through the rod (people with ENDYN rods and pistons will know why they were different in diameter). When I ordered my Thermal exhaust and CarSound cat, hell... I got the exhaust and cat in less than a week's time. And during that time, I was thinking that my exhaust arrived too early because I was waiting for my HiTech header! All the experiences I have with ENDYN were positive, folks...I am completly lost to why there are so many people with misfortunes from ENDYN

 

You're beating C5's and eclipses with 20psi?? A corvette can run a low 13 stock, high 12's with traction.. An eclipse depending on the extent of mods done with 20 psi can easily be in the mid 12's.

I think you need to tell us what your car is puttin down Tony, I'm pretty curious. I'm also willing to come out to Canada just to check your car out!


I just edited my post after hearing some more nightmarish stories of dealings with ENDYN. I'm beginning to believe that Larry is scamming us. For all who have had bad dealings with him you need to come out of the woodwork now and speak.

I myself have been screwed over by another so called "performance tuner" Hi initials are JB.Just like this this I spent an exhorbitant amount of money for what I consider moderate to good performance. And I had to spend at least another grand to get the car the way it should perform.

We need to get rid of these people in this industry and have people who generally give what the customer wants..Performance..Is that asking too much?



[Modified by FAST94GSR, 9:20 AM 7/3/2001]

 

Well I will say this, regardless of the validity of the allegations, after reading the links posted I would never deal with anyone from Endyn. For people to go through all the trouble to write all that out means that they were driven to do so either out of pure insanity or because they are so amazed at how something like this could happen.

 

Holy F$#*....that my friends, is some crazy stuff. I can't wait to see how this one comes out...

 

http://ferrari.colowatch.com/php/sho...sb=5&o=0&part=

 

To make things sound more fascinating, I beat a Corvette C5 auto...not by much, but it's definitely something to brag about! The auto's run somewhere between 13.3-13.5 stock.

I would stay away from ENDYN also until this entire mess is resolved. Who knows, ENDYN might be very good in doing business when I purchased my pistons (which was before the majority of other ENDYN customers), but they might mess around with my orders if I do business with them right now. I don't doubt their products, but I am scared of their services based on the number of complaints from "reputable" customers.

Well, I am glad that I am almost done with my NA buildup...I don't need more pistons, headwork, header, etc... I am glad I don't need to go hunt for other "good" performance shops

Want to check out my C5 story? Click right here:
http://216.149.197.219/dscr/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000421.html

 

I hadn't read 11psiGSR's post cause the address looked simular to another like thread(my mistake 11psiGSR)... It's starting to look pretty bad for Endyn... However, my previous post still stands as to my dealings with Larry... I haven't spent over $10k with him either though...

 

FAST94GSR: Don't you feel like a ******* clown now? I mean, just a couple of months ago you we're shooting your mouth off at me calling me this and that saying I was an idiot and how you knew John Brown.

So I said "hahahaha, your John Brown's bitch...didn't that guy lose his ride because his sponsers dropped him?"

And you proceeded to defend him and hype him up and brag about you and him being buddies, and how I was stupid because he still had his sponsers etc. I forgot what post it was and since I can't search the BODY of Posts *ahem* (moderators take note...hehehe) I can't post it up to show all those times when you shot your mouth off at people to defend John Brown. John Brown's a loser. I've never seen someone put so much money into a car that only runs 10's. Either he can't drive or his tuning skills are non-existent. I think you found out the latter the hard way.

In the end, I guess you've realized that you WE'RE his bitch! He had you wrapped around his little finger.

PEACE!


[Modified by KJ, 6:42 PM 7/3/2001]

 

I will wait when the smoke clears to figure out what's up. As for my expereinces with endyn, they have been nothing but good. I ordered over $3k worth of parts from Larry and they arrived in a speedy manor. Only once was their a mistake where the part was on back order, but only a week late. Larry overnighted the package at his expense.

 

On what basis could JR sue him? Eaton is an OEM supplier and ANYONE can buy the supercharger unit directly from them. From what I've read in the past, the elusive Endyn SC used a different intake manifold,etc. And in terms of having liability insurance, as long as the part has a warning label that states it's for racing use only and there is no warranty, liability insurance won't be involved. Remember the Honda ATV issues from the early 1980's? it was an interesting case study we just had in one of my MBA courses.

IMHO, Endyn is probably a smart auto guy who works out of his house and banks on hype to get publicity on the internet.

 

I ran tony the tiger (not knowing it was him), he passed me quite easily.

I was surprised at the pace he's was pulling me by.

Product can't be that bad if you can do low 13 w/o tuning and on street tires.

Actually Tony don't you some video proof of your crazy kills

 

Hi Gentlemen!!

I am not Atomic and I am not Endyn.

So what do you guys want to know? Ask me anything! I will provide you with all you need to know.

Its that simple.

And pretty soon...everyone will hate Endyn....

Anyone want to get aboard the bandwagon?

I am on board now. Funny huh?

Jeff