Im stumped. Valve question here
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Alright guys,
I am making this post hoping that I get lucky and someone reading this could have had the same experience as me or similar.
To make a long story short, my timing belt slipped while I was hand rotating the crank. Valves made contact with pistons but I took my chances and assembled the motor anyways, hoping it didnt do any damage.
I assembled everything and adjusted the valves. When I started the motor it made a loud ticking noise from the head. Similar to the sound of very loose valves, but also close to the sound of a bent valve. The ticking gets more constant as rpm goes up but doesn't really get louder.
My first thought was bent valves. So i did a leak down test and leak down came out almost perfect, only 2% leak in each cyl. Comp. is 180-190 accross too on a stock LS.
I know this is one of those questions that is extemely vague but I am kinda looking for anything right now as I am stumped as to what the sound could be. could valves be bent and still put out such good #'s? any parts on the head I can inspect that might cause it to make that noise? at this point I am open to any suggestions. thanks guys
chris
I am making this post hoping that I get lucky and someone reading this could have had the same experience as me or similar.
To make a long story short, my timing belt slipped while I was hand rotating the crank. Valves made contact with pistons but I took my chances and assembled the motor anyways, hoping it didnt do any damage.
I assembled everything and adjusted the valves. When I started the motor it made a loud ticking noise from the head. Similar to the sound of very loose valves, but also close to the sound of a bent valve. The ticking gets more constant as rpm goes up but doesn't really get louder.
My first thought was bent valves. So i did a leak down test and leak down came out almost perfect, only 2% leak in each cyl. Comp. is 180-190 accross too on a stock LS.
I know this is one of those questions that is extemely vague but I am kinda looking for anything right now as I am stumped as to what the sound could be. could valves be bent and still put out such good #'s? any parts on the head I can inspect that might cause it to make that noise? at this point I am open to any suggestions. thanks guys
chris
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i seriously doubt you spun a bearing! tell us more about the noise .. is it a hard knocking/thumping or more of a metalic tapping? have you done a valve adjustment yet? if i were you i would do a valve adjustment and another leakdown. it that offers no conclusion then try pulling the head and looking it over. hope you figure it out!
i seriously doubt you spun a bearing! tell us more about the noise .. is it a hard knocking/thumping or more of a metalic tapping? have you done a valve adjustment yet? if i were you i would do a valve adjustment and another leakdown. it that offers no conclusion then try pulling the head and looking it over. hope you figure it out!
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boostinb16, the noise is a high pitched ticking. Sounds like very badly adjusted valves. Gets more consistant w/ rpm but I would not say much louder. I don't think its a bearing either the motor still idles normal, doesnt stumble or anything @ idle. I havn't driven it yet though. I adjusted the valves to .007ex/.004in but I am going to do it again tonight just to make sure.
raene, Its not the injectors. Definitly in the head. my old stock injectors used to tick so i know the sound.
Teamgendai, i will give that a shot tonight. what would having looser clearances do?
Modified by IRepD at 5:35 PM 4/29/2003
raene, Its not the injectors. Definitly in the head. my old stock injectors used to tick so i know the sound.
Teamgendai, i will give that a shot tonight. what would having looser clearances do?
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Why did you adjust them so tight? I think he just meant for you to adjust them to spec. Or... what's the clearance supposed to be for your engine?
Why did you adjust them so tight? I think he just meant for you to adjust them to spec. Or... what's the clearance supposed to be for your engine?
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Why did you adjust them so tight? I think he just meant for you to adjust them to spec. Or... what's the clearance supposed to be for your engine?
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I adjusted them to spec, .007ex/.004in is spec on an LS motor. The motor was definitly cold but I gonna redo it tonight just to make sure I did it right.
Why did you adjust them so tight? I think he just meant for you to adjust them to spec. Or... what's the clearance supposed to be for your engine?
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I adjusted them to spec, .007ex/.004in is spec on an LS motor. The motor was definitly cold but I gonna redo it tonight just to make sure I did it right.
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Well it turns out I am just a slacker and did a crappy valve adjustment the first time. lol. I went back through and redid all the ones I didn't like and the car idles smooth as hell right now. I think I was just paranoid. Its always the simplest thing. Anyways, car is back together and running good thanks for the help guys. oh yeh, .004/.007 is spec for an LS motor. later
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr. Belding »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well it turns out I am just a slacker and did a crappy valve adjustment the first time. lol. I went back through and redid all the ones I didn't like and the car idles smooth as hell right now. I think I was just paranoid. Its always the simplest thing. Anyways, car is back together and running good thanks for the help guys. oh yeh, .004/.007 is spec for an LS motor. later</TD></TR></TABLE>
very very glad to hear the good news!! i kinda figured it was a valve adjustment! i have seen a car that would not even start after a rebuild because of impropper valve adjustment!!
way to go mr. B!!
very very glad to hear the good news!! i kinda figured it was a valve adjustment! i have seen a car that would not even start after a rebuild because of impropper valve adjustment!!
way to go mr. B!!
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