Carbon Fiber check this
I was looking at those carbon fiber fender, i found this site
http://aeiperformance.com/fiber_images.htm
what are they trying to do a FULL CARBON FIBER car?
they have trunk, fender bumper hood dashboard
http://aeiperformance.com/fiber_images.htm
what are they trying to do a FULL CARBON FIBER car?
they have trunk, fender bumper hood dashboard
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i saw that car in last years HIN its bad
i saw that car in last years HIN its bad
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HKS Track Attack Altezza race car... super high output 3S-GTE 2.0L I4 turbo w/ sequential tranny, full cantilever racing suspension (horizontally opposed dampers between the wheels), on board jacking system, etc. etc. It was a sales pitch pretty much, the car was driven in one race, then retired.
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in the case of a unibody chassis, you would have to convert it to tube frame to be able to convert the body panels to CF. But then you wouldn't have much of a car anymore.
I personally find it rather amusing that all you guys jock those CF bodies so hard.
I just posted the pics of the Porsche cuz I saw it in the ITR forum (they jock the CF too) and I knew that's the reaction it would get.
I personally find it rather amusing that all you guys jock those CF bodies so hard.
I just posted the pics of the Porsche cuz I saw it in the ITR forum (they jock the CF too) and I knew that's the reaction it would get.
im sorry, but carbon fiber is the god of all that call themselves fibers. in terms of strength.. let us call to mind an CART accident in the 2002 season wherein two cars collided in a T-style crash. the nose of one car drove itself directly into the cockpit of the car unmercifully. the driver was saved by his carbon fiber bucket seat. the impact happened during a hot lap, the one car had spun on a turn. the driver that got hit..only had a bruise on his hip to show for it..instead of a shattered pelvic region.
will proudly rock anything c/f
will proudly rock anything c/f
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What about the crash that Mario Andretti was in recently?
I recently drove into a curb and nothing happened to my cf lip, NOTHING. Carbon fiber
will proudly rock anything c/f</TD></TR></TABLE>What about the crash that Mario Andretti was in recently?
I recently drove into a curb and nothing happened to my cf lip, NOTHING. Carbon fiber
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haha i was wondering what you would say..
</TD></TR></TABLE>haha i was wondering what you would say..
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hah might as well sit on the hood and drive using ropes attached to the steering wheel.
hah might as well sit on the hood and drive using ropes attached to the steering wheel.
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Unfortunately, a year earlier, the same type of crash nearly killed Alex Zanardi and he lost both of his legs. Another thing to remember about open wheel formula cars is that their chassis is designed as CF monocoque. The layers of carbon fiber are laid in a pattern that distributes load evenly over the grain boundary. These fibers are laid over an aluminum honeycomb that shares the load as well. High temperature resins and extreme pressure in an autoclave is what makes the CF/Al-honeycomb monocoque so strong.
Street cars are not designed as a monocoque so the weight you save using the CF in the panels is lost by the previously mentioned fact that you have to convert your car to a tube-frame. If CF components are used on an application that was not designed for it, the results could be catastrophic. When CF layers are put beyond the critical stress shear limit in the slip direction, CF shatters like glass. The demand for CF products on Honda's has probably hampered the precision of manufacturing techniques to that of poor quality. For unibody purposes, aluminum is really the best material when cost is considered.
Unfortunately, a year earlier, the same type of crash nearly killed Alex Zanardi and he lost both of his legs. Another thing to remember about open wheel formula cars is that their chassis is designed as CF monocoque. The layers of carbon fiber are laid in a pattern that distributes load evenly over the grain boundary. These fibers are laid over an aluminum honeycomb that shares the load as well. High temperature resins and extreme pressure in an autoclave is what makes the CF/Al-honeycomb monocoque so strong.
Street cars are not designed as a monocoque so the weight you save using the CF in the panels is lost by the previously mentioned fact that you have to convert your car to a tube-frame. If CF components are used on an application that was not designed for it, the results could be catastrophic. When CF layers are put beyond the critical stress shear limit in the slip direction, CF shatters like glass. The demand for CF products on Honda's has probably hampered the precision of manufacturing techniques to that of poor quality. For unibody purposes, aluminum is really the best material when cost is considered.






