Important, for the accuracy of an article! What is stock ITR fuel cutoff?
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Important, for the accuracy of an article! What is stock ITR fuel cutoff? NEED PROOF!
We've got two parties, one at 8500, one at 8600. Sound off like you've got a pair, gimme proof dammit!
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Re: Important, for the accuracy of an article! What is stock ITR fuel cutoff? (Aleph)
<FONT SIZE="3"><FONT COLOR="red">8600!!!</FONT></FONT>
It says so in the Helms, I think. But I don't have it with me right now....
It says so in the Helms, I think. But I don't have it with me right now....
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Re: Important, for the accuracy of an article! What is stock ITR fuel cutoff? (Asahi)
I searched the archives and found 4 threads in the R forum, none with definitive info from definitive sources.
Anyone have their helms? I can check when I get home, but that won't be for a while....
Anyone have their helms? I can check when I get home, but that won't be for a while....
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Re: Important, for the accuracy of an article! What is stock ITR fuel cutoff? (Chris N)
redline is 8400...not sure about fuel cut off, probably 8500 because the gsr reds at 8100, fuel cut at 8200.
don't quote me on that stuff.
EDIT: yeah...it's 8600 rpm per helms.
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don't quote me on that stuff.
EDIT: yeah...it's 8600 rpm per helms.
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Re: Important, for the accuracy of an article! What is stock ITR fuel cutoff? (sneakychaos)
u would think after this being talked about so many times in here that it would have been nailed down to the .001th RPM 
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Re: Important, for the accuracy of an article! What is stock ITR fuel cutoff? (CACK ***!)
I guess there's a brochure floating around that says 8500 RPM, so that may perpetuate the confusion...can anyone scan the page on helm or take a pic or something? Mine's at a friend's house...this is for GRM people! Let's step lively! 
EDIT: Trey, is this the brochure that says the R has a titanium shift ***?
EDIT: Trey, is this the brochure that says the R has a titanium shift ***?
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Re: Important, for the accuracy of an article! What is stock ITR fuel cutoff? (Aleph)
8500 per honda motor corporation.
~8600 via VAFC reading from a tach signal wire soldered into the ecu wiring
of course, the fuel cut signal doesn't instantly slow down the mass of an accelerating engine.. that's a good bit of interia to slow down
~8600 via VAFC reading from a tach signal wire soldered into the ecu wiring
of course, the fuel cut signal doesn't instantly slow down the mass of an accelerating engine.. that's a good bit of interia to slow down
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Re: Important, for the accuracy of an article! What is stock ITR fuel cutoff? (Aleph)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aleph »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess there's a brochure floating around that says 8500 RPM, so that may perpetuate the confusion...can anyone scan the page on helm or take a pic or something? Mine's at a friend's house...this is for GRM people! Let's step lively!
EDIT: Trey, is this the brochure that says the R has a titanium shift ***?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The 97, 97 and 2000 brochures all say 8500. At least, all mine do. (I don't have the 01 brochure)
EDIT: Trey, is this the brochure that says the R has a titanium shift ***?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The 97, 97 and 2000 brochures all say 8500. At least, all mine do. (I don't have the 01 brochure)
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Re: Important, for the accuracy of an article! What is stock ITR fuel cutoff? (dawhiteboy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dawhiteboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">of course, the fuel cut signal doesn't instantly slow down the mass of an accelerating engine.. that's a good bit of interia to slow down</TD></TR></TABLE>
Inertia keeps a moving body in motion. It doesn't keep an accelerating body accelerating.
Inertia keeps a moving body in motion. It doesn't keep an accelerating body accelerating.
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Re: Important, for the accuracy of an article! What is stock ITR fuel cutoff? (lanceh)
Case closed! Section 11, page 49, thanx to LanceH for snappin that pix0r. While I'm sure the brochure says 8500 RPM fuel cut, i'm thinking the Helm takes priority since you could beat someone's *** with it much more thoroughly, and that's the true mark of a good book.
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Re: Important, for the accuracy of an article! What is stock ITR fuel cutoff? (Asahi)
Case reopened?
It says the same 8500 on the 97, 98 and 200 brochure that I have all 3 of framed in my office.
Plus the power FC comes with a base map of 8500 rpm fuel cut . . . .
It says the same 8500 on the 97, 98 and 200 brochure that I have all 3 of framed in my office.
Plus the power FC comes with a base map of 8500 rpm fuel cut . . . .
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Re: Important, for the accuracy of an article! What is stock ITR fuel cutoff? NEED PROOF! (Aleph)
Keep in mind that there is a difference between the revs indicated on the tachometer, and the actual revs that the engine is turning.
For example, the NSX redline on the tach is 8000 RPM. The rev limiter cuts off at 8300 RPM indicated on the tach, but that is at 8000 RPM actual revs.
When the rev limiter on the ITR cuts in, the revs on the tach are well above 8600 RPM. (Don't ask me how I know this. ) As the manual says, this happens at 8500 RPM actual revs or 8600 RPM actual revs, depending on which scan you believe. (All of these figures are above the 8400 RPM redline according to the tach.)
P.S. Don't let George see the size of those scanned photos.
For example, the NSX redline on the tach is 8000 RPM. The rev limiter cuts off at 8300 RPM indicated on the tach, but that is at 8000 RPM actual revs.
When the rev limiter on the ITR cuts in, the revs on the tach are well above 8600 RPM. (Don't ask me how I know this.
) As the manual says, this happens at 8500 RPM actual revs or 8600 RPM actual revs, depending on which scan you believe. (All of these figures are above the 8400 RPM redline according to the tach.)P.S. Don't let George see the size of those scanned photos.
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Re: Important, for the accuracy of an article! What is stock ITR fuel cutoff? (Asahi)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Asahi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just decided I am right since I have 3 seperate sources . . . .</TD></TR></TABLE>
your status of itrca/expo director only gets you so far.
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</TD></TR></TABLE>your status of itrca/expo director only gets you so far.
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Re: Important, for the accuracy of an article! What is stock ITR fuel cutoff? (lanceh)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lanceh »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
your status of itrca/expo director only gets you so far.
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BALETED!
your status of itrca/expo director only gets you so far.
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BALETED!