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Apr 16, 2003 | 05:18 PM

crx(gator)

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car died driving and wont start

i was driving my car, then all of a sudden it died...im not getting any codes at all...it just cranks, timing is fine...i thought it was the main relay, so i messed with the sodering on it...still nothing, when i turn the key, i dont hear the relay click or hte fuel pump hum...the CEL still stays on with no codes...

me so sad...

anyone have any ideas...

(91 crx si w/ZC swap)

Apr 16, 2003 | 06:15 PM

poison

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Re: car died driving and wont start (crxgator)

Does the starter turn the flywheel?

Check for spark by removing the spark plug wire, putting a metal screwdriver in the spark plug wire. Put it about 1-2mm away from the radiator support and have someone try starting the car...

If you don't have spark. Trouble shoot the distributor..

Apr 17, 2003 | 04:37 PM

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Re: car died driving and wont start (crxgator)

I had the same problem in my '95 GSR. It was my igniter in the distributor.

Apr 17, 2003 | 05:13 PM

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Re: car died driving and wont start (crxgator)

Could be ignition system. If you have external coil, try swapping ignitor control modules with a friend, if you have internal coil, try swapping coil.

Apr 17, 2003 | 05:21 PM

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Re: car died driving and wont start (crxgator)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crxgator »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the CEL still stays on with no codes...
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When you turn the key to the run possition does the CEL come on for 2 seconds and then go out?

Apr 17, 2003 | 05:41 PM

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Re: car died driving and wont start (TurboD16Chiovnidca)

no...basically i was getting sympthms for a bad main relay...i changed the relay and still got it...im thinking my ecu is fried...im putting a new wiring harness in my engine bay tomorrow, and trying my friend's ecu out tomorrow as well...

btw the distributor is only 2 months old...

Apr 17, 2003 | 05:50 PM

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Re: car died driving and wont start (crxgator)

Kinda sounds like maybe a timing belt broke didi you check that?

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Apr 17, 2003 | 05:56 PM

Chiovnidca

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Re: car died driving and wont start (crxgator)

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Check your fuses. When you turn the key to the run possition the CEL should come on for 2 seconds and then go out.

Apr 17, 2003 | 06:01 PM

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Re: car died driving and wont start (TurboD16Chiovnidca)

all fuses checked, i checked everything vital with a voltmeter, everything getting ~12v...when i turn the key to the on position, the CEL stays on and will stay on till i take out the key...no codes on the ecu though...this means either bad main relay or bad ecu...

Apr 17, 2003 | 06:01 PM

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Re: car died driving and wont start (TurboD16Chiovnidca)

I had this same exact problem. For me the fix was the distributor. Although, I didn' tneed to change the distributor, but instead just the ignitor module ( its a chip ) inside. I also changed my ignition coil just to be safe, since its been there for almost 100k now.

Anyhow, this came out to be around 350. Good luck and definitely try swapping the coil. Also, my distributor was say 2 years old only, but I hear the ignitor module is a pretty common problem. its a 200 dollar part.

Hope this helps.

Apr 17, 2003 | 06:05 PM

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Chiovnidca

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Re: car died driving and wont start (crxgator)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crxgator »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...this means either bad main relay or bad ecu...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Or fuse or wiring or connector. Does your car have an auxillary fuse block on the right side of the under dash fuse box?

Apr 17, 2003 | 11:11 PM

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Re: car died driving and wont start (crxgator)

$50 says its the distributor.

Same thing happened to my car gettin on the freeway.

If it was the timing belt, you'd probably know.

Apr 17, 2003 | 11:27 PM

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Re: car died driving and wont start (TurboD16Chiovnidca)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurboD16Chiovnidca »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Or fuse or wiring or connector. Does your car have an auxillary fuse block on the right side of the under dash fuse box?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, my money is on that... bad ecu/main relay.... maybe even as simple as the ECU fuse. check the underhood fuse box....

it's not the distributor/ignitor... he would hear his fuel pump turn on, and his engine would be getting fuel, just no spark.

it's a problem with the ECU itself... somewhere the ECU has lost connection. or even the ecu has gone bad.

Apr 17, 2003 | 11:28 PM

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Re: car died driving and wont start (civicmon)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicmon »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">$50 says its the distributor.

Same thing happened to my car gettin on the freeway.

If it was the timing belt, you'd probably know.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i'll take that $50