Another Comptech IceBox Install
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Another Comptech IceBox Install
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Took about an hour and a half. Install was pretty straight forward and easy. The bottom part of the air box will go in easily if you take out the... coolant(?) bottle first. A/C lines were never a problem.
Performance
It is raining outside and I have my silencer in. Mind you, I never push my car with the silencer in because it ruins my exhaust tip
(it bends it horribly) . I didn't really get to push it, but I said "screw it" to the silencer and punched it a little bit. Took it up to 7.5k about in WOT, car doesn't have a drastic change. It has more power, but it's definitely not a KICK in the pants 
like the header and exhaust that I installed earlier. The low end has some more grunt to it, slight butt dyno increase, but again, not by much. VTEC engages as it did before, violently, and it has some good gains up top. There's now a low growl at lower RPM's and screams like a banshee up top, but no where close to being as loud as the AEM(note- never had an AEM CAI on the ITR but on a '00 Si). Throttle response is better, it revs quicker. I still need to try it out w/o the silencer and when it's dry outside.
Gripes
The filter doesn't fit snugly into the stock intake arm nor into the air box. It jiggles a bit. Performance gain is decent, but I expected it to be an improvement like the header and exhaust. I wish I had the money to buy the Mugen intake.
Took about an hour and a half. Install was pretty straight forward and easy. The bottom part of the air box will go in easily if you take out the... coolant(?) bottle first. A/C lines were never a problem.
Performance
It is raining outside and I have my silencer in. Mind you, I never push my car with the silencer in because it ruins my exhaust tip
(it bends it horribly) . I didn't really get to push it, but I said "screw it" to the silencer and punched it a little bit. Took it up to 7.5k about in WOT, car doesn't have a drastic change. It has more power, but it's definitely not a KICK in the pants like the header and exhaust that I installed earlier. The low end has some more grunt to it, slight butt dyno increase, but again, not by much. VTEC engages as it did before, violently, and it has some good gains up top. There's now a low growl at lower RPM's and screams like a banshee up top, but no where close to being as loud as the AEM(note- never had an AEM CAI on the ITR but on a '00 Si). Throttle response is better, it revs quicker. I still need to try it out w/o the silencer and when it's dry outside. Gripes
The filter doesn't fit snugly into the stock intake arm nor into the air box. It jiggles a bit. Performance gain is decent, but I expected it to be an improvement like the header and exhaust. I wish I had the money to buy the Mugen intake.
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Re: Another Comptech IceBox Install (disordeR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by disordeR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wish I had the money to buy the Mugen intake. </TD></TR></TABLE>
That's the same way I felt about the Icebox. It works pretty well, but you get what you pay for. The fitment definitely leaves something to be desired, and while the performance is better than stock (3-4 whp), it's nothing drastic. Just start saving up for the Mugen CAI...if you are really crazy like me, you can yank the A/C to help finance the purchase.
</TD></TR></TABLE>That's the same way I felt about the Icebox. It works pretty well, but you get what you pay for. The fitment definitely leaves something to be desired, and while the performance is better than stock (3-4 whp), it's nothing drastic. Just start saving up for the Mugen CAI...if you are really crazy like me, you can yank the A/C to help finance the purchase.
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Re: Another Comptech IceBox Install (EVOL)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EVOL »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there's a group buy in the best buy section for the mugen intake for like
550 or somethin</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ouch, Sparco Evo instead please
550 or somethin</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ouch, Sparco Evo instead please
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Did anyone have fitment issues with the icebox?
Mine fits horrible. I'm ******* pissed. For a peice of ABS plasict it's not cheap. Of all things it should fit well.
I noticed pretty good thorttle response with mine. I am pretty happy.
Mine fits horrible. I'm ******* pissed. For a peice of ABS plasict it's not cheap. Of all things it should fit well.
I noticed pretty good thorttle response with mine. I am pretty happy.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by P1mpSlap »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Did anyone have fitment issues with the icebox?
Mine fits horrible. I'm ******* pissed. For a peice of ABS plasict it's not cheap. Of all things it should fit well.
I noticed pretty good thorttle response with mine. I am pretty happy.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What fitment issues do you have? Mine fits fine.
Mine fits horrible. I'm ******* pissed. For a peice of ABS plasict it's not cheap. Of all things it should fit well.
I noticed pretty good thorttle response with mine. I am pretty happy.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What fitment issues do you have? Mine fits fine.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by disordeR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
What fitment issues do you have? Mine fits fine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The top of the icebox doesn't close all the way. It doesn't snap down on both sides.
Sucks. I constantly have to pop the hood once a week to make sure it's closed.
What fitment issues do you have? Mine fits fine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The top of the icebox doesn't close all the way. It doesn't snap down on both sides.
Sucks. I constantly have to pop the hood once a week to make sure it's closed.
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Re: (P1mpSlap)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by P1mpSlap »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The top of the icebox doesn't close all the way. It doesn't snap down on both sides.
Sucks. I constantly have to pop the hood once a week to make sure it's closed.
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thats kind of strange. mine fits good. you might have to play with it for little bit. what kind of filter do you have? and are you using stock or comptech short ram?
The top of the icebox doesn't close all the way. It doesn't snap down on both sides.
Sucks. I constantly have to pop the hood once a week to make sure it's closed.
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thats kind of strange. mine fits good. you might have to play with it for little bit. what kind of filter do you have? and are you using stock or comptech short ram?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Young_R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
thats kind of strange. mine fits good. you might have to play with it for little bit. what kind of filter do you have? and are you using stock or comptech short ram?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Mine fits well too. Snapped on snuggly. How much force are you using to push the top of the box onto the bottom part of the box?
thats kind of strange. mine fits good. you might have to play with it for little bit. what kind of filter do you have? and are you using stock or comptech short ram?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Mine fits well too. Snapped on snuggly. How much force are you using to push the top of the box onto the bottom part of the box?
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Mine fits great and the box is closed very tight.
I noticed no gains except a better throttle response and some better topspeed.
I have the idea the engine breathes better after I added the comptech intake and Filter to the icebox (the alu too). Overall a good mod but nothing major.
I noticed no gains except a better throttle response and some better topspeed.
I have the idea the engine breathes better after I added the comptech intake and Filter to the icebox (the alu too). Overall a good mod but nothing major.
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After driving around a little bit more yesterday with the silencer in, my butt dyno tells me there's a nice little gain from the intake. Cruising at 3k+- and then accelerating by depressing the pedal gradually, you can definitely feel the better pull.
That is all, I bet my butt dyno lies to me. I want to go and redyno my car. I'm hopeful for numbers close to 180, but we'll see. That's a 5.5 whp gain from my current set up.
That is all, I bet my butt dyno lies to me.
I want to go and redyno my car. I'm hopeful for numbers close to 180, but we'll see. That's a 5.5 whp gain from my current set up.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITR1858 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not possible to dyno an intake.
The conditins while driving are completely different. We talked this out some days ago. Try 30-90 times or so.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Right.
However, an increase in the volume, decrease in temperature, or increase in flow rate of the air would invariably lead ANYONE to believe that you are gaining horespower.
The conditins while driving are completely different. We talked this out some days ago. Try 30-90 times or so.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Right.
However, an increase in the volume, decrease in temperature, or increase in flow rate of the air would invariably lead ANYONE to believe that you are gaining horespower.
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Yeah, so I do... Just physics.
But I really can`t tell numbers.. However, I like the icebox because the engine can breathe, it looks stock and it`s not loud..
Modified by ITR1858 at 7:10 PM 4/13/2003
But I really can`t tell numbers.. However, I like the icebox because the engine can breathe, it looks stock and it`s not loud..
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Re: (P1mpSlap)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by P1mpSlap »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Did anyone have fitment issues with the icebox?
Mine fits horrible. I'm ******* pissed. For a peice of ABS plasict it's not cheap. Of all things it should fit well.
I noticed pretty good thorttle response with mine. I am pretty happy.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I spent $40 for a K&N filter and some tubing to attach below my stock airbox. Everything fits just like stock, and it draws air from exactly the same place as the Comptech Icebox.
Mine fits horrible. I'm ******* pissed. For a peice of ABS plasict it's not cheap. Of all things it should fit well.
I noticed pretty good thorttle response with mine. I am pretty happy.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I spent $40 for a K&N filter and some tubing to attach below my stock airbox. Everything fits just like stock, and it draws air from exactly the same place as the Comptech Icebox.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skafia »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You shouldn't expect a "header or exhaust like" performance gain from an intake.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Except if it's Mugen right?
At least that's what it sounds like from this thread, even though no one has ever posted a stock vs Mugen intake dyno chart before. Or have they? I'd like to actually see it if so, not hear about "my friend did this blah blah".
Except if it's Mugen right?
At least that's what it sounds like from this thread, even though no one has ever posted a stock vs Mugen intake dyno chart before. Or have they? I'd like to actually see it if so, not hear about "my friend did this blah blah".
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SurferX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Except if it's Mugen right?
At least that's what it sounds like from this thread, even though no one has ever posted a stock vs Mugen intake dyno chart before. Or have they? I'd like to actually see it if so, not hear about "my friend did this blah blah".</TD></TR></TABLE>
Mike M. dyno tested the Mugen versus several other intakes and he's told me that it beat them all quite easily. This was why he removed his ARC box to install the Mugen. As far as I know, he hasn't yet had the chance to post the charts, but that isn't really a big deal to me since I can FEEL the difference between the Icebox and the Mugen.
P.S. disordeR, you are NOT going to see a 5.5 peak whp gain from the Icebox. It will net 6-8 whp over stock in the mid range, but peak is only about 3-4 whp.
Icebox versus stock, both with stock paper filter. Dyno with Comptech filter produced up to 1 whp in some places (peak), and lost 1 whp in others (low/mid).
At least that's what it sounds like from this thread, even though no one has ever posted a stock vs Mugen intake dyno chart before. Or have they? I'd like to actually see it if so, not hear about "my friend did this blah blah".</TD></TR></TABLE>
Mike M. dyno tested the Mugen versus several other intakes and he's told me that it beat them all quite easily. This was why he removed his ARC box to install the Mugen. As far as I know, he hasn't yet had the chance to post the charts, but that isn't really a big deal to me since I can FEEL the difference between the Icebox and the Mugen.
P.S. disordeR, you are NOT going to see a 5.5 peak whp gain from the Icebox. It will net 6-8 whp over stock in the mid range, but peak is only about 3-4 whp.
Icebox versus stock, both with stock paper filter. Dyno with Comptech filter produced up to 1 whp in some places (peak), and lost 1 whp in others (low/mid).
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITR1858 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not possible to dyno an intake.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITR1858 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not possible to dyno an intake.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So then why did my car gain up to 8 whp in the mid range and about 3.5 peak whp after switching intakes?
You can argue that some intakes may experience additional gains when the car is moving, or improved throttle response that won't be measured during a dyno run, but to say that you can't dyno an intake is a little ridiculous. As long as the dyno runs are done on the same day and under the same conditions, it is a perfectly good way to compare intakes (or any other part).
So then why did my car gain up to 8 whp in the mid range and about 3.5 peak whp after switching intakes?
You can argue that some intakes may experience additional gains when the car is moving, or improved throttle response that won't be measured during a dyno run, but to say that you can't dyno an intake is a little ridiculous. As long as the dyno runs are done on the same day and under the same conditions, it is a perfectly good way to compare intakes (or any other part).
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bob#455 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
So then why did my car gain up to 8 whp in the mid range and about 3.5 peak whp after switching intakes? You can argue that some intakes may experience additional gains when the car is moving, or improved throttle response that won't be measured during a dyno run, but to say that you can't dyno an intake is a little ridiculous. As long as the dyno runs are done on the same day and under the same conditions, it is a perfectly good way to compare intakes (or any other part). </TD></TR></TABLE>
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No.
One main function of every intake is to take profit of cold air, which is flowing while driving. Hot air is sucked out of the engine bay..
We should not forget that AIR is the stuff what it`s all about. And the air is in a completely different condition while the car is on the dyno (if there`s no wind tunnel). The air is hot and there`s no air flow like it`s present when the car is running. You may read a gain on the dyno but what can you do with these numbers ?
Maybe the best intake while driving is the one which sucks the hottest air when it`s on the dyno...
Sure, you can dyno it, but the numbers are worthless... That`s why say: You can`t dyno an intake (and expect numbers that has anything to do with reality)
So I quote David:
Intake Testing:
Lap times
Hwy Pulls
Timed 30-60, 45-70, etc pulls
Rolling starts to xx mph
Its just hard to dyno an intake....unless the dyno was in a wind tunnel....
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So then why did my car gain up to 8 whp in the mid range and about 3.5 peak whp after switching intakes?
You can argue that some intakes may experience additional gains when the car is moving, or improved throttle response that won't be measured during a dyno run, but to say that you can't dyno an intake is a little ridiculous. As long as the dyno runs are done on the same day and under the same conditions, it is a perfectly good way to compare intakes (or any other part). </TD></TR></TABLE>https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=449873
No.
One main function of every intake is to take profit of cold air, which is flowing while driving. Hot air is sucked out of the engine bay..
We should not forget that AIR is the stuff what it`s all about. And the air is in a completely different condition while the car is on the dyno (if there`s no wind tunnel). The air is hot and there`s no air flow like it`s present when the car is running. You may read a gain on the dyno but what can you do with these numbers ?
Maybe the best intake while driving is the one which sucks the hottest air when it`s on the dyno...
Sure, you can dyno it, but the numbers are worthless... That`s why say: You can`t dyno an intake (and expect numbers that has anything to do with reality)
So I quote David:
Intake Testing:
Lap times
Hwy Pulls
Timed 30-60, 45-70, etc pulls
Rolling starts to xx mph
Its just hard to dyno an intake....unless the dyno was in a wind tunnel....
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITR#132 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Last time I dynoed my car, there was a big fan blowing air at the radiator and at the bumper/turn signal area.</TD></TR></TABLE>......which can help to make the result more accurate... true.
I still prefer the 30-90 times
I still prefer the 30-90 times
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