My wife has a 94 lx with a 95 ex engine in it and she's thinking about getting the greddy turbo kit for it.... We were just wondering what kinna power does that kit put to the ground? and what does that kit usually come with? TIA

 

check my sig for a 2000 Civic Si, whp that is...

Since u have an EX id say 140 to the wheels? (Im assuming greddy Fuel computer)

Any SOHC guys wanna correct me?

 

are you serious? 140 to the wheels?

Hmm....maybe get a bigger motor first?

 

what does the kit usually come with... does it come with some kinna fuel management type stuff?

 

the kit comes with injectors and the "blue box" for fuel management and emissions purposes. From what I heard, the blue box is a POS. Jus get the kit and hookup a hondata.

BTW, what made you choose greddy?

 

well it's for my wifes car and we might be coming up on some money soon and we were looking into maybe getting the turbo kit or maybe doing a motor swap but she liked the sound of my turbo and now she wants one on her car....

 

I would really do the motor swap first. Just imagine, having a turbo car....with 140 to the wheels. You will still get beat by almost everything out there and be embarassed. Stock gsr's put more than 140 to the wheels.

You should not get a turbo just because you like the sound either.......

 

well the thing is, is that her car is the "legal" car... so that's why we wanted to do that...

 

haha ok. Then I say go for it. Swap on a intercooler and BOV since the kit does not come with it



Wait till everyone wakes up for more opinions.

 

FredoSP is right on the money... I put down exactly 140.something to the wheels... stock kit, at stock 5.5psi with the bluebox. Only thing I added was a Type-S BOV.

I was a little disappointed, but you have to remember that bluebox is a piece of garbage. It richened the car out so much that my first run was a big cloud of black smoke because I had so much carbon buildup inside the exhaust from all the unburnt fuel.

I'm now running a VAFC and DSM 450 injectors, and I've upped the boost to about 6.5 psi, will be going further when I get my intercooler in. After that it's an upgrade to MSD coil/cap/6btm and I'll be tuning it at 8psi for daily driving. I'm hoping for at least 160-170 at the wheels after it's all tuned.

One thing you might want to remember though... is that even the stock greddy kit is a 35hp increase over the stock hp output to the wheels. With the estimated drivetrain loss my power output is probably more like 160'ish at the crank, which is where the numbers that others are talking about on stock GSR's and such are measured. The SOHC D16Z6 is 125 "at the crank".

 

greddy kit
FMIC
BOV
hondata s100
1hour of tuning
5.5spi should get you about 145ish whp
10psi should get you about 195-210whp
great kit for daily driving and for limited hp goal!

 

7 psi with a good tuning will put you near 200 whp

 

have you seen that?

 

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the sohc kit doesnt come with injectors...

its a good reliable kit, the hp #'s arent very nice but you'll love the torque increase

 

OKay I have been busy so I finally have time to address this post.

First off, the Greddy Kit is a low maintance kit, meaning bolt it on and off u go. During my install we all were very impressed to the way things bolted up correctly and there were no surprises. It wont be the fastest out there and yeah probably a t3/t04b and e wheels will make more power and flow more cfm at the same PSI, but it all depends upon ur goals. This is for his wife, probably a daily driver that wants some fun here and there. I think also being in cali this is the way to go, but once you add an IC and BOV, the kit looses its CARB status (in from NY so someone will have to back me up).

Now I dont know that SOHC kit that well, but for my DOHC kit it came will all the need stuff to just drive away and have a good time. Im sure if u keep the stock boost setting or raise it to 7 psi, get a good flowing exhaust and if u wanted to go Hondata OR VAFC hack youll make good enough numbers to be happy, id suggest hondata s100 or s200 abd throw it one the dyno, but it all depends on ur wallet.

Now for the "Turbo" Vs "Sawp a B16 or B18", ehh who knows, i mean yeah youll make the same whp but you will have some nice extra TQ from the turbo.

Hope this helped.

I have some links for a ZC install and my install if your interested.

- Fred

 

heres my dyno etc,

 

i think the greddy SOHC kit.. is worth it if you want it legal and not much *future* horsepower....

If the apexi is legal, i would go with the Apexi...

As for the sohc, i would say upgrade the fuel management, then it's all good....

you will LOVE that boost pull feeling with just the tiny turbo.. it feels GOOD !!

even my engine is *maybe* blown now, and my turbo is not running, I still don't want to give up with NO MONEY... coz that feeling...it's PRICELESS

good luck

do some search, it might help u out

and maybe go to http://www.turbocivic.net to see if the kit

 

get the greddy kit then upgrade your fuel system. that alone is good for 8-10 psi.

when I say upgrade I mean at least DSM 450's & an intank pump.

10 psi tuned with say hondata will make really nice power for the wifes daily driver.

or is this not leagal in smog **** land?

 

thanks guys... another question... is that kit still gonna be "reliable"? or will the engine blow even if i just bolt on the kit and drive.... TIA

 

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Do you think that they would sell something that is going to blow your engine? It's usually operator error (boost happy, or cutting corners) that causes a blown engine. I've been turbo charged for over three years and have yet to blow my engine, but i also know a guy who blew his engine within a week of going forced inducted.

 

I have the greddy kit on my stock single cam. Odometer is now over 180k and I've been boosted for about 9 months now without any problems. You can check out my website for the mods I have done so far....fuel etc. I T'd the vacuum line from the wastegate to the nipple on the type-s blowoff valve that reads atmosphere pressure. This gave me 7 psi for some reason. I did it to eliminate any turbo shutter. With the car like this I ran my 13.7 on drag radials. This is with full interior and everything, my car weighed in at still only 2410 with me in it. Thats one thing you will have to deal with is the extra weight that cames with a 4 door. I'm not sure how much power I make with it. I'll be doing the v-afc hack next weekend so I'm gonna see if I can tune it to run 10psi daily with manually delaying the timing until I save some money for a BTM. This semseter is almost over so once I'm able to work over the summer I'll have money to get on the dyno and see some power numbers.

 

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Since u have an EX id say 140 to the wheels? (Im assuming greddy Fuel computer)

Any SOHC guys wanna correct me?
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Over at the old skool turbo d16 forum, some guys have made 160whp ish with the GReddy kit, IC, and AFC hack at 6psi. VTCcivic made 180whp with the GReddy, Hondata, and 3" exhaust.

 

I have to agree with TurboXBirD16, you might really look into the Apexi units. BB turbos. compare the two and decide both are well known and reliable.

 

145.6 whp @ 5-6 psi Dyno'd at ATP
142.4 ft-lbs

This is on my old 1999 Civic EX (stolen)
Greddy Kit
Type 31 Intercooler
Type S BOV
Stock Cat with RS*R Exhaust
Greddy Blue Box - Suprisingly kept consistant and flat 12.5-12.0 a/f ratios

 

WOW those are GREAT torque numbers......