I jst got done watching the videos at the Eaglef1.com site with Derrick Bell driving the M3 Ruff and Esprit, and during soem of the shots is shows his doing the heel and toe.

During this I thought that if you do this on a FF car, like a Integra ect, the basiclly you are working the brake and accelerator against each other, by doing both actions at the same time to the same two wheels. Wouldn't this cause a lack of momentom and a moment of neutrality?

Thus when you attempt it at a FR, the rear wheels receive the power, while the front brakes, ie causing a more natural balance and being to power through the corner.

If anyone can sort this confusion out that would be great as I know alot of people on here always talk about it.

 

It doesn't matter... when you're braking for a turn and then blip the throttle to rev match you have the clutch in so the engine spins freely and you can make the downshift. FF or FR the transmission is not engaged during the time both the throttle and the brake are pressed.


[Modified by Watkinsm3, 2:03 PM 4/4/2003]

 

If anything, making a mistake while heel-toeing with a FR car could have more serious implications than a FF car; causing you to spin before even getting to the corner.

 

Heel and toe or left foot braking? Like it's been said, it doesn't matter if the clutch is in.

Warren

 

it's correctable though, no?
unless you really messed up & plow completely out of control

 

I would think that making that correction would involve lifting off the brakes which would probably send you shooting off the track, so even if you save the spin, you're still in pretty lousy shape.

 

Thanks for clearing it up, if anyone is inetersted the videos are excellent to watch definteley a

 

You ought to try heel and toe rev matching on a downshift in a Mazda RX7 with a welded rear differential. Thou shalt have the revs perfect with the wheel and ground speed or you are coming around right now I suggest you try it while in a curve with some side G force to give you quick practice.

 

I'm gonna have to pass on that...

 

Wow, those vids are incredible! Eagle dumped a hell of a lot of cash to make those vids, for sure. Has anyone figured out how to save em'?

 

Talking about riding the razor's edge!...

I agree, practice (where you can't hit anything) while there is a side load on the car. If you screw up, the car will certainly let you know (FWD will push & RWD will spin). In theory you are heel-and-toeing to avoid upsetting the chassis during downshifts (the sudden jerk on the tires as they attempt to speed the engine up). If done properly, there will be no affect on the car regardless of whether it is FWD or RWD and the technique is the same. Of course there are different heel-and-toe techniques (like double clutching, etc.), but they are not related to drive configuration.