Your cars condition and equipment is your responsibility. We wrote rules that any stock Integra Type-R would pass with no issue. We cannot and will not be held accountable for these modifications you have made and refunds are not available because your mods don't pass tech.

You signed up under your own cognizance and agreed to our terms by checking the box before registering.

If need be, put your car back to stock. I have worked my *** off on this Expo and people crying about a seatbelt and the time they will have to take to swap one out is of little consequence to me. I have spent hundreds of hours on this so if someone has to spend a couple hours to prep their car to pass tech so be it.

I have been threatened with legal action because I will not refund someone's money and they have yet to even consult George and Morgan about the issue. This has pushed me over the edge and I am starting to lose my patience. I am doing everything I can to accommodate everyone so if you all expect me to be reasonable you had better plan to be reasonbable as well.

Trey

 

all u damn race kaaa stunna wannabe's

trey

 

 

Well said.. It seems simple: Read the rules.

 

trey, hang in there, we all appreciate what you have done and the man hours you have logged on this expo. dont let a few people ruin the experience.

 

post IP addy....I will threaten him

 

I thought this was made clear from the beginning, before registration had even opened.

Abide by the rules or do not run on the track.

Seems fair to me.

*shrugs*

 

For working your *** off for us! Thanks man.

 

Whoever doesn't want to follow the Expo rules can watch or stay at home.....plain and simple.

 

Let me take care of the people bitching

Expo
Idiots and complainers

ITs like any other event, your car must pass the rules to go play. Follow the rules and you can play its that simple

 

without a roll bar you can have 4pt or stock seatbelts only, and we would wan tot take a look at the 4pt to make sure it does not restrict movement away from a collasping roof in any way

having a roll bar means you need 5pt or 6pt harnesses

this is non-negotiable


if you need help installing you stock belts back in or putting new harnesses into the car bring them to the track and we will see what we can do

 

I'm willing to lend a hand with any work that needs to be done, spur of the moment to meet tech requirements.

There's no reason why anyone should leave this event disappointed.

 

[Modified by apexii, 4:01 PM 4/1/2003]

 

That is almost verbatim what I have said. The most i can do for anyone is pitch in and help. I don't mind getting dirty but we didn't save money for refunds.

 

hehe ... or one of my fav's http://www.cooley.com/practice_and_people.ixe

 

I understood it to be without a roll bar only factory belts.
With roll bar 5 or 6 point harness,or factory belt.

I am using a 4 point Autopower bar,but due to the fact that I still have factory seats,I was planning on using factory belts.
Sorry,not trying to create confrontation,but gain some clarity.


[Modified by Obee1.8, 1:36 PM 4/1/2003]


[Modified by Obee1.8, 1:38 PM 4/1/2003]


[Modified by Obee1.8, 1:39 PM 4/1/2003]

 

I have an extra set of oem seatbelts I am not using.....

 

with roll bar you need harnesses'

 

im still not clear on this...can i get some clarification?

Ryan, who is JFWY

 

Thank you christia, bring them regardless. Maybe we can add a how to install seatbelts session!

 

I hope that is an April fools joke. I've never heard of this policy and was never mentioned prior to this! It makes sense that you can't use a harness without a rollbar but why would you not be able to have a roll bar with factory seats and belts? This would require you to have a pair of FIA approved seats with sub belt hole and 5 or 6pt harnesses. NASA has never had any issues with factory seats and belts with roll bar!


[Modified by 6ghatch, 5:04 PM 4/1/2003]

 

OK, I think there are too many "authorities" bluring the rules now.

This does NOT say you can't use OEM belts with rollover protection.

also,

This prohibits 4 points due to the lack of anti-submarine belt. So 4 points are not allowed with any seat, stock or not. Or any state of rollover protection, or lack thereof.

I'm just quoting the written rules, George get back to me if I am incorrect but I think urbanlegend is reading from a different set of rules than I have.. and I would hope that I'd have a currect copy.

 

Dave, the way you've put it above is the way I read them as well. JMHO Ed

 

Actally there is one manufacturer that has a DOT approved 4 point with anti submarine technology built into the belt for high speed crashes. Schroth rally 3 and rally 4 belts will work. Because they are DOT approved with the anti sub technology, they can be used on the street. Thats an FYI, dont mean it as they will be allowed at the expo, but they are great belts and legal on the street and safe as well as approved by all racing organizations.

 

They do have ASM. I've never tested them to see if they work. But like you said, they will NOT be allowed at expo because they still don't have a anti-submarine belt.