Why did honda introduce the b16 to the US for only two years.
when in japan they had b16s when 1992.

I remember we used to go to honda dealorships and search for a 99-00 si, and the dealorship would say if you find one let me know. If they were such hot cars, why did they stopped making them.

When gsr was avaliable to us in 94

 

probly for the same kinda reasons they stopped making the 330zx

 

uhh, Alot of high performance cars/motors don't make it in the US because of our restictive emissions laws... the laws are for the greater good but they blow when it comes to automotive enthusiasts...the higher a motor revs and the more fuel it consumes, the more emissions it makes, so the laws don't like powerful motors. And the market just isn't as great as one would think. Think about it like this: A dealer sells out of their alotted 13 Si's in like 2 months; well yeah thats pretty good but think about how much more demand there is for minivans and SUVs. Hi-per cars can't compete. It sucks but it keeps me busy because I love building/maintaining hi-per vehicles...i'd be bored if fast/powerful motors were common place.

96 Civic LS


[Modified by 96 Civic LS, 2:32 AM 4/1/2003]

 

dont forget that the b16 was also offered in the del-sol vtec

 

got one 95 yo

 

it was a b16a3 and it only had around 145 hp. is was severie de tuned. don't know why they didn't leave them hear longer.
"dont forget that the b16 was also offered in the del-sol vtec"


[Modified by playAho, 3:43 AM 4/1/2003]

 

94-95 del sol vtec had the b16a3
96-97 del sol vtec had the b16a2

 

my opinion is that honda never saw much potential for it here(they were wrong)...being that imports are only popular on the coast states...go into the mid east or mid west nothin but fords, chevys, and Dodge

 

because the K's came out? new designs, mang. plus, remember, we bombed the hell out of them, so they have to taunt us every now and then with a quick jdm taste.

 

hey playaho you are full of **** and have no clue what you are talking about. All the B16's in America had 160HP.

 

thank you man. i read that and was like, WTF? I had never heard that before, but i tend to learn something new about hondas every day, and just thought i had heard something new.

 

LOL: you think a Honda Civic SI is a "Hi-Per" car?!? It runs a 16 stock, there's nothing "Hi-Per" about it.

The B16A is a torqueless bitch of a motor anyway. Why complain?

 

Its the same question as why didn't they bring the WRX or the EVO the North Amercia for this long? There are probably many factors contributing to the decisions that car companies make.


Besides, the B18C GSR was around for 8 years and thats what I'm truely happy for.

 

Another thing to consider is that in the US honda will not release anything that may bite into their acura sales. So we had the acura gsr w/b18c1 for years, but we see the b16a2 sporadically in the honda line in some of their more sport-oriented vehicles. Same type of reason why we won't see the CTR here.

Emissions do play a part, but IMO, its more about money, market, and profits. Keep in mind that they did bring the ITR over, so they could handle the emissions issues if they wanted to.

 

actually, i would be surprised if we DIDN'T see the civic r over here in the next few years. these new SIs blow ***, nobody is buying them, honda has to do something.

 

i dont see why a lot of people praise the gsr more then a civic si ...imo stock for stock they compare ....
00 GSR Obtained from C&D December, 1999
0-60: 7.2
1/4 Mile: 15.7
00 civic si Obtained from Web January, 2001
0-60: 7.9
1/4 Mile: 15.9


stock for stock they compare...sure the b18c1 has a bit more potential but a gsr and a civic si compare...ever after boltons i still think they compare

 

bleh, http://www.car-stats.com ? none of those stats are accurate... especially "Obtained from Web". and the car and driver stats are from ringer cars


[Modified by Spoon Hybrid, 5:20 PM 4/1/2003]

 

you jerk skunkspeed......ive seen 15.4 for a gsr and 15.7 for a civic si stock.... either way .3 isnt much

 

yes it is

 

I live in Idaho. there is more then you think but it is mostly rice but we do have a fiew nice cars in my town 20 or so clean cars.

 

im not saying there isn't any out there....20 or so clean car compared to what you would see out it in cali is nothing...forign cars are selling more now..but i bet where you live there are way more american cars