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Old Jun 17, 2001 | 08:08 PM
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Default Supercharger & Short Shifter info....help....

Next summer i plan on saving my cash for a Jackson Racing Supercharger.
Has anyone used or had any experience with this product?

I am pretty sure i am keeping my stock engine, i rather put out my money and add performance parts rather than do an engine swap.

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I heard from multiple people that short shifters can wreck your transmission. They suposidly put more strain on the tranny than it is ment to handle.. is this true??

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Old Jun 17, 2001 | 08:20 PM
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Its kinda bad for the syncro's in your tranny....since you shifting distance is shorter, that means you are putting the transmission in gear quicker...and your syncro's aren't used to this.... I've got a short shifter in my car, and so far its doing fine.

That is the only thing i've heard the short shifters will damage (syncro's)

Check w/ Mista bone about that (is he even on this board?) he is a tranny guru....he would know anything/everything about it.
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Old Jun 18, 2001 | 02:18 PM
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ok a jackson racing s/c is built to go on a stock car. itf you mod the engine it won't run as good. now don't throw any bs **** at me ok. i am telling you what the people told me. the s/c is good if you don't wanna do anything to the engine. basically leaving it stock. if you start to modify it the horse power goes down. it just isn't meant for modifing.
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Old Jun 18, 2001 | 02:51 PM
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well it will be going on a stock engine. But ther will also be mods. I already have exhaust. I am going to be doing headers, cold air intake, advanced timeing, etc.. So i guess the S/C isnt good for me..

Are there any companies that make a bolt on Turbo, or one that will work good with a 4th gereration civic?

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Old Jun 18, 2001 | 03:10 PM
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well it will be going on a stock engine. But ther will also be mods. I already have exhaust. I am going to be doing headers, cold air intake, advanced timeing, etc.. So i guess the S/C isnt good for me..

Are there any companies that make a bolt on Turbo, or one that will work good with a 4th gereration civic?

Thanks,

well you could wait on endyne to brin gout their s/c but who knows when that will be. let me look at some turbos that they sell for our cars and get back to you on that last question.

ok all i can find is that drag gen 2 turbo kit. you can find it at http://www.importpartsplus.com or www. importparts.com . you will probably have less headaches with the s/c but i mean if you tune a urbo right and take care of your car then a turbo should be fine.


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Old Jun 18, 2001 | 03:21 PM
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Hmmm...not sure where in the world you got your info about the JRSC..

The JRSC does NOT perform worse if you mod the engine. It will perform better. The JRSC is in my opinion the best system out there for a mildly modded d16a6.

There are no real bolt on turbo kits out there for our older engines, the JRSC is perfect for the stock engine.

It was engineered to work on the stock engine. When you start modding the engine further you might need some tuning to get the most out of it...like turbo kit's.

I have had my JRSC on my crx since september 2000, no complaints really...it is a great system that you can bolt on and forget about. Make sure that an experienced mechanic or a JRSC dealer installs it for you.

In my opinion, the problem with turbo kits for our cars is that..simply there is no kit specifically engineered for the d16a6. Every turbo kit will be modified from the d16z6/y8 engines or will be a home made system.

Personally I was not about to put my daily driver at the mercy of a cut and patste kinda kit.

The car is great fun to drive and feels great.

I've recently added a zdyne gold secu..the car feels even better now.

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Old Jun 18, 2001 | 04:00 PM
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Hmmm...not sure where in the world you got your info about the JRSC..

The JRSC does NOT perform worse if you mod the engine. It will perform better. The JRSC is in my opinion the best system out there for a mildly modded d16a6.

i talked to some peeps that had experience with them, and that is what they said. and also if you call up jackson racing, they will tell you that.
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Old Jun 18, 2001 | 04:32 PM
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Dude, I'm telling you...keep in mind, I've got a JRSC in my car.
Any system needs some tuning, even the JRSC.
Jackson Racing likes to say that it is a purely bolt on affair, but each system need some tuning.

I like mine and it is working quite well.
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Old Jun 18, 2001 | 06:48 PM
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ok DUDE!! j/k ok well that is what they told me. i believe you, i was just saying wha ti had known. this girl was only tellign what she knew.
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Old Jun 19, 2001 | 11:51 PM
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Mazmay -- How much did you pay for the JRSC and how much did instalation cost you??

i am still unsure what to do..should i go with a SC or a Turbo??
ahh i'm going to go crazy trieing to decide...

But from what i have heard turbos need more maintance and might cost more in the long run..

but the Jackson Racing Superchargers say they are made for 89 CRX's
i own a 90 Civic Si (hatch) would it still work?

but then again turbos give you way more HP and torque
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Old Jun 20, 2001 | 08:27 AM
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I got my JRSC through the groupbuycenter, it was a pretty good deal at just about US$2000. Installation cost me $500 Canadian (around US$330)

In it's most basic form the JRSC at 6psi and no other mods is a reliable bolt on mod.
I'm pretty satisfied with the JRSC, I'm getting ready to up the boost on mine and trying to take precautions to keep it reliable since my engine has pretty high mileage.

A turbo has more of an upside, you can get a lot more hp out of a turbo and the addition of an intercooler is a great bonus too, it keeps temperatures down...I don't have that option with the JRSC...

Then again, think about what you want to use the car for? do you want maximum hp no matter what the cost (turbo)? or would you be satisfied with lower hp and a simpler system (JRSC)

It depends on your knowledge too, are you comfprtable playing around with a turbo, can you keep yourself from turning up the boost too much? I know that if I had a turbo, the combination of my lack of knowledge and my desire to go faster, i would have blown my engine by now.

the jrsc you want is the one made for the d16a6 engine, all crx si and civic si from 1988-1991 have this engine, so the JRSC will work on your car.


Keep in mind, the third option is always to get an engine swap.

So think about what your goal is with the car, is it you r daily driver, how much time do you have to spend in the shop or work on your car..
What is your budget, do you have a backup budget if (god forbid) you blow your engine?

Give all of this a good thought, and let me know...
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Old Jun 20, 2001 | 03:45 PM
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Default Re: Supercharger & Short Shifter info....help.... (Mazmay)

To start off i'll let you know i'm only 16....and my money is burning a hole in my pocket.

yes it is a daily driver. I wanna be able to see a nice fast looking car and pull up beside makeing them think.. "oh a slow *** civic" and rape them and make them think twice...

With a engine swap i dont know where to buy one in canada, and i would never be able to install it myself..

but i gotta go out now so i'll explain more later
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Old Jun 20, 2001 | 05:26 PM
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Default Re: Supercharger & Short Shifter info....help.... (90civicrider)

i would really like to do a B16a swap or ULTIMATLY a Type R swap...
i mean i can afford the engine, but there is no way i could afford the installation cost..

what's involved in a swap?
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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 02:21 PM
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If you want a b16a, then go for it. For the money it takes to properly run a JRSC you could swap in a b16a.
The advantage you have with the b16 is that you can upgrade it bit by bit, some cams here...cam gears later....etc etc..it can be a gradual thing.

Keep in mind tho' with the jrsc you'll be running low 15s/high 14s quarter mile..pretty much the same as the b16a...

With your swap you'll need:
motor mounts
engine
cable transmission and shift linkage
axles
ECU or vtec controller

go to the hybrid honda website and check out the 4th generation swap options.
hybrid.honda-perf.org

The type R is currently too expensive. JDM b16 can be found for decent prices now.
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Old Jun 25, 2001 | 02:02 PM
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Default Re: Supercharger & Short Shifter info....help.... (Mazmay)

Your Right!

I think i might just do the B16 swap next summer...
Is this a project that i can complete myself?
I'm only 16 and don't really know anything about engines...

anyone have any how-to sites or anything, that i can read up on?

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