My car needs a rebuild. Period. The head is fine, the shortblock is pretty phucked. The car's nickname is the Oil Tanker which was funny at first, but not really funny anymore.

Option 1: D has a GSR block that he picked up from a friend for a really good price. It needed a Type R crank which was already purchased as well as new pistons, rings, bearings, this, that, etc.. It needs machine shop work as well. It will not be ready before expo. Price is estimated with Labor around 1200-1500

Option 2: Called my ***** Len up at Baranco Acura. He has a killer deal on a complete Type R shortblock. All you have to do is switch water pumps out and sensors and ****, put it on and drive away. P1 Automotive will be doing the work and break in period would be my 500+ mile trip home plus 1100+ back to expo the following weekend. Price - almost double of option #1, but peace of mind and it will be ready before expo (hoping Len has one in stock)
Also, the block will say C5 instead of C1 in case I ever wanted to sell the car.

I just want this **** to be fixed.

 

I thought you were going to sell your car??????

IF it was me, I would try to get a B20.

EDIT: option #2 would be my next choice


[Modified by PhucNguyen57, 7:26 AM 3/28/2003]

 

tough call...does the OEM short block come with any kind of warranty? that would be the deciding thing for me I think, that and peace of mind.

 

I would assume it comes with a warranty from Len at Acura yes.

 

how much do you want for the old block?

 

Personally I'd want to run at Beaver. So I'd go the more expensive route, if I had the money.

Also.... future buyers might be skeptical of why there is a c1 block in there.

 

rebuild current motor and install better pistons.

 

Marc I say go with the C5 because like you say it will be a peace of mind and it will be ready before expo (hoping Len has one in stock). Also, the block will say C5 instead of C1 in case I ever wanted to sell the car. Plus the C5 is a better block for NA than C1 right.

 

not when his listed parts will be going into the c1.

 

jonas: I think that was sarcasm on mickey's part

 

I did not think about that. CTR pistons or Toda piston and some Toda cams.

 

Hey I told Robert (XR4racer) I'm a We-Todd-Did Stunna.

 

I would find a B20 block and do the rods and pistons in there
but other then that Option 2

 

either rebuild with better pistons and rods, or buy a new c5.

 

Yes, warranty would be the deciding factor for me as well. I would get the ITR engine so like you said (if u must sell u can)

Also, what did you do to your engine, just run it like a ITR should be run

 

I think you would get the extra $1500 out of it when you sell it. Can't imagine anyone paying book value with a gsr motor in it.

 

That's what I'd do also.

What would be the advantage of using the GS-R block if it needs machine work and a new crank? I could understand using it if it were ready to swap in right now, but since it needs work why not just perform the work on your current block?

 

Option 2

run a complete stock b18c engine... You don`t need that crappy aftermarket internals to be fast. stock = most reliable.

PS:
Sell your old block to someone who wants to install better pistons


[Modified by ITR1858, 5:35 PM 3/28/2003]

 

how much COULD I get for the old shortblock?

 

Guess it depends on what's wrong with it. Is it just the rings?

 

won't know till we tear dat biznatch open :fire:

 

Nos don't like rings.


er... cast pistons and rings don't like nos and detonation.


[Modified by D, 12:51 PM 3/28/2003]

 

Hey Marc, if you've got the cash available, I'd go with the shortblock. The advantages are that your downtime is way less than rebuilding your current engine, and you keep the C5 engine, which is important for the resale value of the car (if you care about that).

Doing that also gives you more options. Like you could sell the old block or use it as a foundation for a new killa engine if you wanted to go that route. You could resleeve or overbore it, throw in high compression pistons and all that good ****. Then you swap the rebuilt block back in and sell the new one.

 

My thoughts exactly!!

Good thing about option 2 is you can sell the old parts for some extra $$ as well.

 

Nitrous is like cocaine for your motor; fun, but not healthy.

Although I think if he broke a ring land, oil consumption would be the last of his problems. Just guessing, but I don't think there's anything wrong with the motor that a re-hone and a new set of rings couldn't fix.

I don't see why so many people are suggesting the brand new C5 block. I wouldn't spend $2000+ on that. Less than half that would almost certainly put the old block back on the road, and with higher compression pistons.