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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 09:01 AM
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will they fit? i think only the rears fit or only the fronts cant remember. can any body clear this up? thanks,
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 09:07 AM
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Rears fit. Fronts have a longer shock, I believe if you use the fork of an"eg" it may work....
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 09:32 AM
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thnx
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 07:59 PM
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its gonna be a bit higher, even if you lower it , its gonna ride like ***. trust me, i had GC's with tokico EG struts. when lowered the travel is out of whack
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 08:36 PM
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So would EG forks act as drop forks for us EFers? I know the 8*-89 or something accord strut thing works similarly, but is this a drop alternative for us?

Kev- excited at the thought of a new discovery
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 08:55 PM
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EF suspension diagram

'95 suspension diagram


it looks shorter and smaller to me, but it is hard to tell!

The pictures for EG and EK seem to be the same...that could explain the suspension compatibility.

I'll have to measure my friend's '98 EX sedan's forks and see if they are the same, but shorter than mine!


[Modified by CRXSi90, 7:27 PM 3/23/2003]
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 11:39 PM
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you got the wrong EG there... its 92-95, as someone mentioned earlier, it might possibly work if you also use the forks
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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 10:33 AM
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I edited the picture and some other stuff into my other post. The pictures seem to be identical, though. The difference is just a shorter fork, right? None of the mounting is different?

I'm excited because we may be able to put these forks in our EFs to lower it some and give more suspension travel!
See?

At $45.56 from HondaAutomotiveParts, it isn't too bad of a price for what it does. I'm not sure if I would rather have the accord shocks or these forks, though? What would the benefits of both be?
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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 10:38 AM
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haha, what about accord sturts with those forks. that would be great! do they make teins for a 88 accord.
ok, so when people have teins on a EF what set up do they use? i always thought they used the EG setup, or integra, but integra is same as EG. so what would they use? they dont make one for a EF right? i thought it was the same for all hondas, except for EK. i think EK have a wider rear lower arm.
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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 11:15 AM
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thank you mitsuman for accidentaly discovering this new option to lowering ef's. ::bows::

nah but that would be pretty tight if that was possible, who wants to try it first?
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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 11:35 AM
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well they use the EF setup for the EF teins... thats right, they make em for the EF...
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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 11:37 AM
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i put 94 gsr struts on my 91. i could only get the rear on and that was stretching the control arms. it also raised the rear about three inches making my car look like some hotwheel car i used to have that jacked up in the back. as far as the front, the fork is too long and the strut is too large to fit in the ef forks seat. i ditched it all eventually. i felt like the rear was a bit stiffer but it still looked gay and was not the way the suspension was designed to compensate for loads created in hard cornering.
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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 12:49 PM
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mr. carpenter, you are saying that the 91 struts are a smaller diameter than the 94 GSR ones, right? I guess this is still better than being the other way around...there is still the possibility of putting a metal sleve in to compensate for the space. How much difference in diameter was there?

I measured my forks and they are about 8" from where the strut seats to the center of the bolt that connects it to the LCA. The lower control arm is about 1 3/4" wide, so the fork would need to spread across this.

Somebody needs to take some other measurements of newer cars.
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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 01:09 PM
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yes . the 91 struts are about 1 and 1/2" and the gsr's are about 1 and 5/8". i thought about spreading the 91 fork to fit the gsr strut but that cast fork is stiff and it did'nt seem wise to be bending a part that carries so much weight. the backs go in pretty easy. you could do it and see what you think. it definitely made the rear stiffer but witout the fronts it made my nose plow more. i kept them on until i got a new setup. i don't understand what you mean by using a metal sleeve to compensate?
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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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Ok, here is my idea again just in case you didn't understand.
We are only talking about the front here. If the newer civic forks are shorter than the stock 88-91 ones, you would be able to put these newer forks in the 88-91 to lower it. This is using the stock strut and spring too.

Now, here is the part about the compensation with the metal sleeve...
As you found using your old 88-91 fork and the newer strut, it wouldn't fit in. You would have had to somehow make it bigger. In reverse, using the newer, shorter, forks intended for use with larger diameter struts, the small 88-91 strut would be loose in the fork. I figured that a metal sleeve would take up that space. The sleve would have to be about .0625 thick to make up for the gap. (FIY, this is actually realitivly thick...I'm not sure what gauge...as gauge might be the best way to find it)...you would want to cut the sleve down one side so that it could expand and contract so it could shape itself around the shock.

See?

First, we have to get some more precise measurements if those were just guesses that you made, and well have to measure the height of the fork to ensure that we actually would get a drop out of this.

Kevin
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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 07:17 PM
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the eg forks are longer
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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 07:20 PM
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Oh, bummer. Why doesn't anything I ever try to figure out work out? Grr...
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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 07:32 PM
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investigate the accord route. i know i have heard it mentioned around here before. buy you some springs and shocks. it took me 4 months to find the extra cash to do it but man am i glad i did. car is evenly dropped and rides smooth,
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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 07:41 PM
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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=399992
that is the best thread I've found about the accord shocks. That looks good, I'll do it next time I need shocks, but right now mine are fairly new. At this time, my dad (who actually owns my car) is hesitant to do any supension modification because he just spent a lot of money fixing what was once a really messed up half-*** lowering job. Unfortunatly, it was using stock parts...(I was willing to go with H&R OE sport for his comfort, but he was unwilling...and nobody had the right rear I think bilstien shock- the only brand on my list that he would trust) I even have a progress type camer kit which can be .75 OR 1.75 degrees of correction. He got new springs then for the front and shocks all the way around, that is why I suggested upgrading to H&R springs and performance struts.

Thats ok, I'm thankful for the work he did anyway. The CRX is a much better car because of it.

For now, I might just bang off the brake line holder thingy. <--how should I secure the line after I do that...zip ties?
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