ok im in a speach class at school and i want to proveto people that honda is the way to go. But sense most of them thing 4 bangers dont; have the power i want to prove them wronge. but i would also like to have proff that honda can beat them at their own game.

so i saw a picture of a honda v8 and i was hoping someone might have specs on it and possably give me an internet site or company i can get info from for this engine

thanks

 

how about the indy engines that Honda makes, i believe they push more than 1k HP

 

yeah i heard this v8 is used in honda's kit cars or indy cars, but its N/A and thats what i need to use to compair to the ford 5.0 and he chevy 350.

 

only car to compare would be the NSX. nothing else would compare really. well maybe the S2000.

 

not to be a smart-*** or anything, but you should maybe look into a spelling class...

 

the 5.0 is a piece of ****. thats why they went to the 4.6, it was lighter and pumped out more hp. the mustang engines not even comparable to the chevy 350, what makes u think they can compare it to a honda v8?????

 

ok first off why do u think u have to flame. second off i didn;t say the ford 302 compaired to the chevy 350. second if the 4.6 is so much better than why does a 95 5.0 beat out a 96 gt with a 4.6? anyway thats besides the point i don;t really care about v8s i just need some info on the honda v8. also i personaly don;t think that a domestic engineered engine will ever compair to a foreign engineered engine.

so where ever u got that idea u can just shove it up your

also i know my spelling sucks i don;t really care.

 

yeah im sure you can get the engine for a pretty penny, but be prepared to run it on alcohol since thats how indy engines run, go for it. put it in a vega and make everyone feel bad...

 

too bad it doesnt and u dont know ****. im not flaming, im just setting u straight. i know the chevy beats out ford no hands down. theres no comparison.

 

Honda has a V12 in some of the F1 cars. Only 3.0L but red line is 15K+

 

Ok buddy... I am so sick of this 5.0 flaming that I see on here. The 5.0 was THE engine of the 80's, the one that ushered in the second musclecar era; and guess what, it was faster than the Camaro's TPI 350 despite having less torque! That's right! Do your homework before you post crap like this. The 5.0 is a well designed engine, with a large bore and a short stroke that can be revved highly, happily. It had goodies like forged pistons, and a roller cam. It's not a torque engine like the 350. If 5.0's sucked so much, why was -and is- there such a huge aftermarket for them? Face it: the 5.0 is one of the greates pony car engines of all time. The fox 5.0 mustang was the musclecar of the 80's and early 90's.

 

i'm with AllShowNoGo on this one. Chevy makes a better engine than ford. End of story. Try comparing the bitchstang GT to a SS or even a z28(the slower one) and you'll see what I mean.

 

just to let you know....use an apostrophe(') and not a semi-colon(.

 

who really gives a crap about the damn eighties. what about the zr-1?????? 406 hp. even now, ford has to put a damn supercharger on their cobra to get close to the amount of hp the zo6 has. mustangs are poorly built girl cars. if u want american muscle, get a chevy. end of story.

 

 

It's pointless arguing with people like you.
If the mustang sucks so much, then why does it outsell the camaro 2-1? Why is F-Body production ending?

 

anyway i don't really care about chevy or ford i just need some info on the honda v8.

 

Probably for the same reason more people are buying Hondas and othe similar cars. They are looking for something more "trendy" and better looking and more comftrouble inside. i haven't ridden in both enough to decide which one has a better interior, thats not even my point. Its just that having the most horsepower avaible isn't at the top of everyones list when looking to but a car. But chevys make more horsepower...period. Theres no arguing with that. They even can mis- quote hp and tq ratings lower than what they really are. Doesn't that say something right there. Which car is a better car is really up to each person and what there looking for, what there budget is and their pwn personal taste. But when it comes to power and the better engine. Chevy wins, and theres no arguing with that.

 

Okay so even if these V8s are for like cart or indy or something it's pretty pointless to compare that to a chevy 350 or ford 4.6/5.0


Chevy and Ford make race engines too...

 

There has been some talk in recent years about a Honda V8. But nothing positive. Only rumors. One rumor said that Honda would build a V8 for a top-of-the line luxury car similar to the Lexus SC430. Another said that Honda was building a V8 for the next NSX. This V8 was said to have a displacement somewhere in the neighborhood of 4.0-5.0 liters and a power output of over 400HP. But there has been nothing positive on either count.

As for the Ford 5.0, it is NOT faster than the 4.6. The latest 5.0 was only a mid 15 second car. And the latest 5.0 Cobra produced an underwhelming 240HP that was good for only a 14.9 second quarter mile. The SOHC 4.6 finally brought the GT into the low to mid 14's. And the DOHC 4.6 finally brought the Cobra into the 13's.

 

I think you should compare apples-to-apples, not apples-to-oranges.

Street cars are unconstrained in their design limitations to be much of any good use for comparison. The V8's used in muscle cars are not designed with the same goals and market as Honda's four cylinder engines (or even one of Honda's theoretical V8's). Each caters to its own crowd and purpose/goals.

You're better off arguing that each engine has its own goals, purpose, and niche market than to pit them against each other. Too many what-if's for you to argue you that one is convincingly better than the other.

A possible solution is for you to pick a closed and regulated arena where all such companies compete on more even grounds....racing for example.

In racing, every team has to build around a set of design specifications and rules with identical goals in mind, and very few different methods to reach those goals. That way, you'll have a direct comparison to argue that one is better than the other using supporting historical and known technical facts.

Base your arguments around the strongest points of comparison that are in your favor.

Keep in mind that your goal is to convince that one is better than the other, not spew off a bunch of facts that aren't gonna help you win the crowd. In a way, you're trying to sell your point-of-view.

Keep it as simple as needed for the crowd to understand and follow. The better they follow your thoughts and arguments, the better the arguments and speech will be in the end.

G'luck wit dat. Peace out dawg.


[Modified by IN VTEC, 12:06 AM 3/20/2003]

 

Wow, I was gonna start type up this big long post....but looks like IN VTEC got it down.

 

honda made a 2.65 litre v8 for cart, twin turbo, 870 hp @ 14k rpms.
It was on display at the North American IAS in detroit a couple years back.

 

cuz its so damn cheap. theres no need to argue bc theres nothing to argue about; chevys better. the only reason they outsell them is bc, theres a bunch of girls like them and they get stupid v6s. anybody that knows anything about cars knows chevy is better.

 

yeah, it runs a 13 w/a damn supercharger. the z06 runs 12s w/o forced induction. learn ur ****.